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Old 01-06-2010, 4:48 PM
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stations 25,65,69, run together on certain calls and are mutual aid on structure fires in the area.will keep and ear out to see what is what.
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why cant it be entered as a new channel.. fire unk zone?

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why cant it be entered as a new channel.. fire unk zone?

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It probably can, and my thinking is that it should. But I know that when I handle requests for Ohio submissions, I'd be skeptical of adding something that wasn't very desccriptive.

I did submit this, but an admin hasn't picked it up yet. And even if an admin did pick it up, I indicated I had no idea what it shoudl be called.

but I agree, it should be added regardless so that people will see it and listen to it, since we all know it is active.

I also submitted that 151.43 110.9 is dispatcing zone 1 and 151.43 127.3 is dispatching zone 2... and that the specific "duplicate" entry that lists south strabane probably should be removed since south strabane is only one agency dispatched on that frequency and the frequency is not licensed to them but rather the county.

So we'll see what happens. I know I left enough room for confusion to abound in my submission And the reason for that is that I don't have intimate knowledge of Wasington. I monitor it casually. So I can't speak authoritatively as to what each freq should be listed as. I submitted it based upon soley what I have personally confirmed hearing in the past week.

My personal records have:

151.43 PL 110.9 - apparently zone 1 fire dispatch
- 31 / 39 / 43 / 44 / 53 heard dispatched

151.43 PL 127.3 - apparently zone 2 fire dispatch
- 10 / 12 / 18 / 35 / 41 / 72 heard dispatched

151.3475 PL 156.7 - apparently zone 3 fire dispatch
- 15 / 22 / 23 heard dispatched

151.0625 PL 110.9 - 25/65/69 ?????? fire dispatch
- 25 / 65 / 69 heard dispatched

154.13 PL 141.3 - Peters Twp FD
- heard 64 and I _thought_ I heard 48 dispatched

As I hear new stations dispatched, I watch to see if they are dispatched on one [or more than one] frequency, and so far the ones above were dispatched on one and only one freq (or PL). And in my personal records I'm just noting them that way.

I read elsewhere that Washington Co is in a state of transition from low band to VHF (and also to narrowband). So I am clueless as to where agencies will end up a year or two from now, but for right now this is what I have.
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Default Washington County Fire Channels.

151.43 PL 110.9 - apparently zone 1 fire dispatch
- 31 / 39 / 43 / 44 / 53 heard dispatched

only stations 44 and 43 are currently dispatched on the above channels. and yes it is set up on the radio screen in the center as zone 1 dispatch.

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151.43 PL 127.3 - apparently zone 2 fire dispatch
10 / 12 / 18 / 35 / 41 / 72 heard dispatched

stations 10, 12, 13, 28, 41 are dispatched on the above channels, this channel is not set up as a zone yet just is basically the fort cherry fire district departments. You may hear station 18 talk on it also from time to time, but they currently are not dispatched off of this channel.

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151.3475 PL 156.7 - apparently zone 3 fire dispatch
- 15 / 22 / 23 heard dispatched


i dont remember exactly what stations are currently moved over to the above channel, but yes it is the zone 3 channel.

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151.0625 PL 110.9 - 25/65/69 ?????? fire dispatch
- 25 / 65 / 69 heard dispatched

yes 25, 69, & 65 are on this channel now. I am not sure what other stations may move over to this channel. It is marked on the radio screens as Zone 2

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154.13 PL 141.3 - Peters Twp FD
- heard 64 and I _thought_ I heard 48 dispatched

only stations 64 and 48 are dispatched off of this channel. the channel i believe is owned by peters township. It is marked on the radio screen as FD-7 Peters.

I am a dispatcher for Washington County.
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fredd,

if your a washington co dispatcher wouldnt you have a better chance of telling us what the exact frequencies are and what their used for, it just seems in your posts your kind of skeptical on what the frequencies are for.

what i dont understand is why does the county need 3 dispatch frequencies? wouldnt it make better sense to move them to uhf, since the city of washington is on uhf, monongahela fire and ems are on uhf and washington co ems has a uhf frequency, plus the bording allegheny co has moved to uhf not to mention brooke and hancock co's are uhf?
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Also i notice the zone 1 and 2 has same output with different PL.

I could see this to be a big problem if each zone had a working incidents.. they would be walking over each other on the outputs of the repeater.


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Also i notice the zone 1 and 2 has same output with different PL.

I could see this to be a big problem if each zone had a working incidents.. they would be walking over each other on the outputs of the repeater.


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Yes this does create a problem, the Fort Cherry Fire District channel is supposed to only be a temporary channel, but they have been on here for at least 2 years so far. I have heard that they are supposed to move to the zone 2 channel with 25, 69, 65. But have not gotten confirmation on that.
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thanks for the updates fred
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fredd,

if your a washington co dispatcher wouldnt you have a better chance of telling us what the exact frequencies are and what their used for, it just seems in your posts your kind of skeptical on what the frequencies are for.

what i dont understand is why does the county need 3 dispatch frequencies? wouldnt it make better sense to move them to uhf, since the city of washington is on uhf, monongahela fire and ems are on uhf and washington co ems has a uhf frequency, plus the bording allegheny co has moved to uhf not to mention brooke and hancock co's are uhf?
What exactly would you like to know? If I don't have the answer I am sure I can get it. About your remark about 3 dispatch frequencies, we actually have more than 3. It would make more sense to have just 1 dispatch frequency and use the other channels as ops channels, but that just will never happen in this county since they allow the departements to dictate to us what they are going to do instead of the county dictating how things will operate. We have 1 fire dispatcher per shift, and are required to listen to 9 yes I said 9 channels, and they are all dispatch channels. Yes we do have operations channels but just about everyone refuses to use them even when we make an announcement to switch over to ops channels. I think the reason for that is because we do not / can not monitor them. They are not on our radio screen even if we wanted to listen in, well I cant say they all aren't we can listen in to 46.12 which is a fireground channel, but we can only listen in from 2 tower sites, and they will not pick up the entire county.

Washington County Dispatch Channels

Channel #1 is 46.400
Zone 1 is 151.430 PL 110.9
Zone 2 is 151.0625 PL 110.9
Zone 3 is 151.3475, I have not verified the PL for this yet, I am in Washington and do not pick this up very often.
Fort Cherry Fire is 151.430 PL 127.3
City Of Washington 453.4875 DPL 411
City Of Monongahela Fire 471.0875 PL 131.8
Peters Twp / N. Strabane Fire 154.130 PL 141.3
County Haz-Mat / QRS for county property incidents. 471.4125 PL 110.9

Washington County Operations channels (all are non repeated)

46.12 low band fireground 1
46.26 low band fireground 2
45.10 low band fireground 3 (This used to be the County Sheriff's channel)

153.830 PL 110.9 fireground 1
154.415 PL 110.9 fireground 2
153.080 PL 110.9 fireground 3
453.8375 DPL 411 City of Washington fireground


In response to the EMS being on UHF, they are not dispatched on UHF, the dispatch channel is 155.295. I hear EMS on UHF also from time to time I am told that it is a link to other towr sites. I don't know if that is correct or not. City of Monongahela and City of Washington own their own channels, and they chose to go UHF. I do not see this county going UHF anytime soon, we do not have enough tower coverage for that. We only have 7 maybe 8 sites in the county.

If you have any further questions please let me know I will answer them if I am able to.

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Peters Twp / N. Strabane Fire 153.130 PL 141.3 should be 154.13 just wanted to point out so no confusion is caused.
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Peters Twp / N. Strabane Fire 153.130 PL 141.3 should be 154.13 just wanted to point out so no confusion is caused.
Thanks I fixed the original post.
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fredd,

is monongahela ems on 471.1875??, other than that you pretty much summed it up, just in your first post i read it as if you were a dispatcher but wasnt sure what the frequencies were. it was late when i read your post so it could have been the way i read it, didnt mean to come off as a dick or anything. so the county is still using the low band setup. when it comes to doing things the way it should be counties never do wanna play the game


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oh yeah i forgot to add a question or two, i have hazmat as 453.525. is that a wrong frequency and does the city of washington have any FG channels?? as well as monongahela. about the uhf county ems i meant to say a uhf link repeater, sorry
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oh yeah i forgot to add a question or two, i have hazmat as 453.525. is that a wrong frequency and does the city of washington have any FG channels?? as well as monongahela. about the uhf county ems i meant to say a uhf link repeater, sorry
Yes you are right 453.525 is the correct channel for haz mat dispatch. I will update my post from before. The City of Washington as far as I know of does not have any fireground channels. they do all operations on the dispatch channel since they are the only department on the channel. The same thing goes for Monongahela they are the only department on the channel in Washington County. Gallatin Sunnyside Station 154 which is just across the river is also on their channel. Washington used to dispatch them up until about 3 years ago as Station 75. I guess Allegheny County did not want to add the channel to their system, but finally did.
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Just an update to clarify exactly who is on what high band channel at this time.

Zone 1 Fire consists of stations 43 + 44 only at this time
Zone 1A (I guess you could call it) consists of stations 10, 12, 13, 28, 41 only at this time.
Zone 2 Fire consists of stations 25, 65, 69 only at this time.
zone 3 Fire consists of stations 15, 16, 17, 22, 23, 26, 33, 40, 47, 63, 66 only at this time, some are simulcasted over low band still also.
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