Blair County

[Tom_Pa]

Does anybody have any news on the Blair County P25 upgrade? They should be further along by now.

[CHAWMAN24]

last i had heard from a firefighter buddy of mine the towers were all constructed and sometime after the new year the new system will be operational. he was telling me they will likely simulcast the new system over the old one for several months till they get all the kinks worked out but from what im hearing this should all be in early 2013

[CHAWMAN24]

Hearing alot of testing today on blair co frequencies sounds like they are doing audio tests of some sort. From what im hearing they will be simulcasting the P25 system over the old analog one for a while. Not sure if they are testing on the new system and what im hearing may be the simulcast. I didnt get my new digital uniden bcd896xt scanner programmed or figured out yet to check that out

[anchor1]

Article in today's (12/19/12) Altoona Mirror states that Blair County's conversion to narrowband has been delayed until early January.

[CHAWMAN24]

Article in yesterdays altoona mirror said new digital system goes live with police frequencies on Monday 1/14. EMS Tuesday 1/15 and fire on Wednesday 1/16.

[mtindor]

If that is the case, then somebody in Blair Co should know what frequencies are in use by the trunked system by now. There will a 24/7 full-time P25 control channel on some band -- VHF / UHF / 800 Mhz. Somebody probably should be doing a search with their scanner of the public safety bands to find out the frequencies.

Blair Co does have a UHF trunked license, but it only has 453.5375 and 453.3875 on it. Of course they have a lot of other UHF freqs that I suppose might be incorporated into the system. If they have an 800 Mhz license I don't see it.

But if you've got a digital scanner and can scan the public safety bands, it wouldn't hurt to be on the lookout for a new 'undocumented' P25 control channel and then gather the System ID, Site ID(s), WACN, frequencies and site neighbors [if any.. probably not].

Mike

mike

[druhe]

Channel Name RX Freq NAC/PL TX Freq NAC/PL DIGITAL/ANALOG

NTH PD 460.0250 O25 465.0250 O25 D

NTH TAC 460.1875 192.8 460.1875 192.8 A

CTL PD 453.3500 350 458.3500 350 D

CTL TAC 460.2875 192.8 460.2875 192.8 A

LOGAN PD 460.0750 O75 465.0750 O75 D

LOGAN OPS 460.3250 192.8 465.3250 192.8 A

LOGAN M/M 460.1750 192.8 460.1750 192.8 A

STH PD 460.1250 125 465.1250 125 D

STH PS OPS 460.4000 O23 465.4000 O23 A

STH TAC 460.3875 192.8 460.3875 192.8 A

METRO PD 460.4250 425 465.4250 425 D

METRO OPS 460.1500 192.8 465.1500 192.8 A

METRO M/M 460.2250 192.8 460.2250 192.8 A

SHERIFF 460.3000 300 465.3000 300 D

C. OPS 1 460.2750 275 465.2750 275 D

FIRE DISP 460.6000 82.5 465.6000 82.5 A

REG FIRE 453.7250 725 458.7250 725 D

CTL FIRE 460.5000 500 465.5000 500 D

STH FIRE 460.0500 050 465.0500 050 D

EAST FIRE 453.9500 950 458.9500 950 D

NTH FIRE 460.1000 100 465.1000 100 D

WST FIRE 453.9500 951 458.9500 951 D

METRO FIRE 460.5750 575 465.5750 575 D

EMS DISP 460.6250 625 465.6250 625 D

MED 10 462.9750 192.8 467.9750 192.8 A

MED 9 462.9500 192.8 467.9500 192.8 A

MED 1 463.0000 192.8 468.0000 192.8 A

MED 2 463.0250 192.8 468.0250 192.8 A

MED 3 463.0500 192.8 468.0500 192.8 A

MED 4 463.0750 192.8 468.0750 192.8 A

MED 5 463.1000 192.8 468.1000 192.8 A

MED 6 463.1250 192.8 468.1250 192.8 A

MED 7 463.1500 192.8 468.1500 192.8 A

MED 8 463.1750 192.8 468.1750 192.8 A

[mtindor]

Thanks Dan. That's what I get chiming where I don't belong I made the false assumption that P25 = Trunked. Foolish, yep. I get it now. Same freqs, just some are now P25.

Mike

[CHAWMAN24]

Thanks Dan! Thats the updated list i have been looking for. Im new to the digital world of scanning i have been in the hobby for 25+ years but it was always analog. I got a uniden BCD996XT new several months ago. I used computer software to get all the analog freqs programmed. I now need to get the Blair and Bedford P25 systems programmed into it. So far im not having much luck with the digital programming but ill learn it one way or another.

[benrussellpa]

I started entering the updated info last night, got busy with something else, and then fell asleep! Whoops.

I got a few more tweaks in before work.

I'll try to finish page updates sometime tonight.

Ben

[benrussellpa]

North PD Dispatch, Logan PD Dispatch, and South PD Ops...can someone in the area confirm whether the NAC starts with a zero or the letter O? The list above shows a letter O and I entered them that way. I just want to make sure this is not a typo. Dan?

Also, on the fire side, any ideas on the old fire police channels or a new hazmat ops channel?

[Chauffeur6]

Originally Posted by benrussellpa

North PD Dispatch, Logan PD Dispatch, and South PD Ops...can someone in the area confirm whether the NAC starts with a zero or the letter O? The list above shows a letter O and I entered them that way. I just want to make sure this is not a typo. Dan?

It has to be a zero, there is no letter O in hex. 0 through 9 and A through F are the only valid characters, and NAC codes always consist of 3 characters, including any leading zeros.

[benrussellpa]

Can anyone shed some light on this listing? Best I can tell from some quick online looking, Blue Knob Fire Dept is in Portage Township which is in Cambria County. The listing has an FCC callsign attached that is for Blair County.

I'm trying to clean the Blair County page up to meet the official database standards and this is kind of hanging out there right now.

453.72500 WQKE776 RM 192.8 PL Blue Knob FD Blue Knob Fire Department FM Fire-Tac

[benrussellpa]

Originally Posted by Chauffeur6

It has to be a zero, there is no letter O in hex. 0 through 9 and A through F are the only valid characters, and NAC codes always consist of 3 characters, including any leading zeros.

Shame on me. I should have known that!

[Solrose249]

Hey also the Bedford page should be updated too, I know they don't use their lowband stuff anymore.

[benrussellpa]

Originally Posted by benrussellpa

Can anyone shed some light on this listing? Best I can tell from some quick online looking, Blue Knob Fire Dept is in Portage Township which is in Cambria County. The listing has an FCC callsign attached that is for Blair County.

I'm trying to clean the Blair County page up to meet the official database standards and this is kind of hanging out there right now.

453.72500 WQKE776 RM 192.8 PL Blue Knob FD Blue Knob Fire Department FM Fire-Tac

Okay, so it looks like the fire company is in Juniata Twp, Blair Co, just south of Rt 164. Now, anybody know the validity of the frequency assignment, especially after the digital switch?

[benrussellpa]

Originally Posted by Solrose249

Hey also the Bedford page should be updated too, I know they don't use their lowband stuff anymore.

Hyndman and Bedford each have their own listings for lowband. Those are also no longer in use?

[Solrose249]

Originally Posted by benrussellpa

Hyndman and Bedford each have their own listings for lowband. Those are also no longer in use?

Not sure but they probably did move to the new system, I live in Cambria county so it's hard to tell.

[druhe]

Originally Posted by benrussellpa

North PD Dispatch, Logan PD Dispatch, and South PD Ops...can someone in the area confirm whether the NAC starts with a zero or the letter O? The list above shows a letter O and I entered them that way. I just want to make sure this is not a typo. Dan?

Also, on the fire side, any ideas on the old fire police channels or a new hazmat ops channel?

Let me clear up the "O" vs "0" what we found is the original listing was put out in excel which was not formatted correctly, whoever created the list could not enter 025 so they made it O25.

There is another correction South PS OPS 460.4000 is listed as analog with a NAC of 023. This is an analog frequency however it should be DPL 023 not NAC.

If any other changes come to light I'll post them as I get them

[benrussellpa]

Originally Posted by druhe

Let me clear up the "O" vs "0" what we found is the original listing was put out in excel which was not formatted correctly, whoever created the list could not enter 025 so they made it O25.

There is another correction South PS OPS 460.4000 is listed as analog with a NAC of 023. This is an analog frequency however it should be DPL 023 not NAC.

If any other changes come to light I'll post them as I get them

Is South PS Ops a multiagency interop channel? I added it as South PD Ops thinking it was a typo.