MontCo upgrades

[cavmedic]

So what is it exactly that the county is doing.

Are they only rebanding , are they only upgrading PD and EMS to P25 phase 1 or is everything going to phase 2 ....


No one seems to know an answer , and at the quoted 7k per radio , it's a little bit of a concern if all of our FD radios have to be switched over like some of the rumors that are floating around .

[cdavisjr]

From what I have seen so far in changes to the FCC licenses, things for now look like a rebanding. Keep in mind that any major changes to the system in the future are still in their infancy. We only just finally got all fire on one voice dispatch channel to match all ems being on one channel, that alone was a million years overdue. Just like with the major changes currently going on with all of the surrounding counties, It'll be a wait and see and listen game. There's one thing I do know for sure and that is that we have a great county commissioner staff and a thoroughly put together committee that was formed to give positive feedback from the people who will use the system the most and that is the field users. Both the committee's hard work and the commissioners patience and attempted better understanding of all aspects of radio systems and usage in general make me as a field user within the county not only excited but confident that any changes not only take us to where we need to be at the next level, but leave us room to also move forward into the future.

[cavmedic]

I'd hate to see them go overboard. 4 mobiles , and 10 plus handhelds would be next to near impossible to be able to pay for.

Hopefully the tower additions will help us out in the west side since local comms aren't worth anything over a 1/4 mile on simplex and when on the region talk groups, it tends to be allot of data not being able to be decoded due to terrain and or a bad shadow for the ringing hill tower location.





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[benrussellpa]

I'll have to double check, but I thought the system was going phase 2. TDMA talkgroups for police/ems. Fire will stay phase 1 FDMA talkgroups. In the western end of the county, VHF is making a comeback for the fire companies...Skippack, Limerick, Perkiomen, Collegeville, Schwenksville, Upper Providence all seem to be making more investments in VHF for alternate comms.

[hippieman556]

I noted the vhf for those companies and others in the fcc database

[cdavisjr]

Ben,
Did you ever find out if it was phase 2 or not? just curious....hope that at least at first it is a monitorable phase 2 if one exists. Now that I feel mastered between alanog and digital the technology is leaving me out of the loop again with phase 1 vs phase 2 vs td/fdma, etc

[MotoSystemsTech]

The County is Rebanding All 800 mhz Radios in the county . Police, Fire, Ems

[cdavisjr]

Hopefully for now to a type of system that the 396t or xt will still pick up.

[benrussellpa]

Originally Posted by cdavisjr

Ben,
Did you ever find out if it was phase 2 or not? just curious....hope that at least at first it is a monitorable phase 2 if one exists. Now that I feel mastered between alanog and digital the technology is leaving me out of the loop again with phase 1 vs phase 2 vs td/fdma, etc

Nothing is for sure until the project moves forward, I suppose. But, yes, the plan is for police/ems to be TDMA P25 Phase 2 talkgroups while fire is FDMA.

[cavmedic]

I spoke to a county tech on Friday relating to another issue. But did pose the question and was told fire only need to have the radios flashed for the reband and that's all.


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[chankel]

The EMA Coordination talkgroup was being tested this afternoon around 1415 hrs. I captured the following ID's in P25 mode on my PSR-800

20405 EMA EM 85-1
20409 ? no audio
20421 EMA EM 61-2
20424 EMA EM 89-1
20428 EMA EM 83-1 Portable 1
20429 EMA EM 83-1 Portable 2
20434 EMA EM 81-1
20457 EMA EM 87-2
20462 EMA EM 43-1
20468 EMA EM 42-1
20470 ? no audio
20471 ? no audio
20472 EMA EM 37-1
20473 EMA EM 39
20474 ? no audio
20484 EMA EM 47
20704 EMA EM 62-1
20719 EMA EM 64-1
20741 ? no audio
20748 School Jenkintown SD
20749 School Lwr Moreland SD
20751 EMA EM 55
20755 School North Penn SD Unit 1
20760 School Colonial SD Radio 2
20787 School Arcadia University
20789 School De Salles University
20797 EMA EM 48
20815 School MCI UD Anderson
20817 School Bryn Mawr College
22590 EMA EM 25?
23991 EMA EM 39-2
24151 EMA EM 51

I did not hear any analog traffic. EM 48 was acknowledging other stations when they called in for radio checks.

[benrussellpa]

Originally Posted by chankel

The EMA Coordination talkgroup was being tested this afternoon around 1415 hrs. I captured the following ID's in P25 mode on my PSR-800

20405 EMA EM 85-1
20409 ? no audio
20421 EMA EM 61-2
20424 EMA EM 89-1
20428 EMA EM 83-1 Portable 1
20429 EMA EM 83-1 Portable 2
20434 EMA EM 81-1
20457 EMA EM 87-2
20462 EMA EM 43-1
20468 EMA EM 42-1
20470 ? no audio
20471 ? no audio
20472 EMA EM 37-1
20473 EMA EM 39
20474 ? no audio
20484 EMA EM 47
20704 EMA EM 62-1
20719 EMA EM 64-1
20741 ? no audio
20748 School Jenkintown SD
20749 School Lwr Moreland SD
20751 EMA EM 55
20755 School North Penn SD Unit 1
20760 School Colonial SD Radio 2
20787 School Arcadia University
20789 School De Salles University
20797 EMA EM 48
20815 School MCI UD Anderson
20817 School Bryn Mawr College
22590 EMA EM 25?
23991 EMA EM 39-2
24151 EMA EM 51

I did not hear any analog traffic. EM 48 was acknowledging other stations when they called in for radio checks.

There will be another check in this evening. You can grab more ID's then. This is a monthly check in net for emergency management.

[MotoSystemsTech]

cavmedic, not sure who you talked to but the county flashed all of my police radios last week, when they changed us over..

[chankel]

I caught some of the evening check in as well. Is this on a schedule of "1st Monday of every month"?

[benrussellpa]

Originally Posted by chankel

I caught some of the evening check in as well. Is this on a schedule of "1st Monday of every month"?

Yes. Two check in times. 1400-1430 and 1900-1930. Same time each month.

[bballdawg84]

I have been monitoring Upper Dublin PD on ID 2320 for the last 15 years at least. That ID went silent today, later found the department on 4112. They were always self-dispatched, now seem to be dispatched by county. Any insights would be appreciated.

[bballdawg84]

To follow up on my last post...per township website...
•As of 2/5/2013 10:15a, Upper Dublin Police (911) are being dispatched by Montgomery County. The UD Police Station is still open 24/7.

[cdavisjr]

I believe the counties goal now and moving forward with the new radio system is to eventually have all police countywide dispatched by the county.

[maxim5522]

hi,does anyone know if pscl 1 an 2 an itaqc channals have rebanded yet or hooked into a patch. also did chester county do with their upgrades an reband process yet i was wondering.

[MotoSystemsTech]

Upper Dublin went to county dispatch this week. They will be on Pd 11 with Whitpain,Ambler and East Norriton police Departments.

Talk Group Id.
Pd- 11 4112
RG-11 4144