Lancaster County Dumps - MA/COM OpenSky System

[lancopa]

Originally Posted by Ravenboy2003

I don't think anyone is testing anything yet. Lanco had the original contract amended to facilitate some technical changes.

Ahh ok. I know there is a meeting coming up at the training center to discuss the system and whatnot. I am curious to know how it's going.

[dcr_inc]

Has anything started on this project?.. I see they have 99 T-Band freqs licensed to them..

[lancopa]

Originally Posted by dcr_inc

Has anything started on this project?.. I see they have 99 T-Band freqs licensed to them..

good question!

[mlmummert]

Originally Posted by dcr_inc

Has anything started on this project?.. I see they have 99 T-Band freqs licensed to them..

How does the supposed* end of T Band fit into things?

* (I'll believe it when I see it)


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[P25_GURU]

It appears that the T-Band sell out is going to fade away..But time will tell.. Lanco will still build out because of the promise of Free Relocation if and when T-band gets sold

[dcr_inc]

So my question still stands... Is anything happening on this project. Has the Bid been awarded and system design complete? .. Anything ??

[mlmummert]

Originally Posted by dcr_inc

So my question still stands... Is anything happening on this project. Has the Bid been awarded and system design complete? .. Anything ??

Same questions from me. Lancaster County has been struggling with this radio project for years yet their systems remain in the dark ages.


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[lancopa]

Originally Posted by dcr_inc

So my question still stands... Is anything happening on this project. Has the Bid been awarded and system design complete? .. Anything ??

LCWC: Radio System Home Page

They have links on there.

[lancopa]

Did anyone go to the council meeting last week that also had radio discussion? if so what did they say?

[Thunderbolt]

Lancaster County has applied to the FCC to erect a multiple site Project 25, Phase II TDMA TRS. Further information is available on the FCC Web site:

Application 1

Application 2

Application 3

Application 4

Application 5

Supporting letter

Implementation schedule


73's

Ron

[bauker]

It is a standard P25 system, not Phase II, per existing plans. Also, the new radios in our fire apparatus, already installed mostly with grant funding, are Phase I units. The licensing allows several different emissions, including narrow analog, so we'll see how the channel plan is laid out when the time comes.

[Thunderbolt]

The sad part is that they will have to migrate to another frequency band, probably the 700/800 MHz area in the future. With the UHF-T band Giveback program taking effect in roughly eight years from now, they will have to implement a whole new radio system. If this holds true, this radio system will be retired ahead of projected obsolescence date.

73's

Ron

[lancopa]

Originally Posted by bauker

It is a standard P25 system, not Phase II, per existing plans. Also, the new radios in our fire apparatus, already installed mostly with grant funding, are Phase I units. The licensing allows several different emissions, including narrow analog, so we'll see how the channel plan is laid out when the time comes.

Is there a chance that before the system is completed it will indeed be Phase 2?

[bauker]

I deal in facts, not speculation, so... This is a P25 phase 1 system to be compatible with multiple vendors (a good thing). Since phase 2 has limited vendor availability at this time, and prices are higher, the odds of going to phase 2 on this system at this time are almost zero.

As far as the future of T-band, yes, there are some questions about that, but no one can fully hazard what is going to occur. Technology is changing fast, new interoperability standards are being developed, and the next generation LTE stuff is being rolled out, so who knows.

[vinzep491]

Looking at a county-compiled list of the radios suggested for use on the system, I do not see a single Phase Two model.
Given that Phase One radios are already being bought, as well...

[lancopa]

Originally Posted by vinzep491

Looking at a county-compiled list of the radios suggested for use on the system, I do not see a single Phase Two model.
Given that Phase One radios are already being bought, as well...

Exactly, and phase 1 radios cannot work on phase 2, correct? They would have to buy all new radios?


Has anyone gotten a complete straight answer about encryption? I don't understand the issue, either yes or no.

I would love to go to a meeting and ask. Depending on who you ask now, you can get nope, maybe, some, or yes.

It cannot be that hard at all. SERT team and so on. Ambulance for reports and that's it. Everything else should be completely open and scanable.

[Ravenboy2003]

Originally Posted by lancopa

Exactly, and phase 1 radios cannot work on phase 2, correct? They would have to buy all new radios?


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Most Phase 2 systems in place now are set up for mixed mode, meaning they are still using FDMA control channels. Phase 1 radios will work all day on a Phase 2 system, but will obviously degrade the system capacity by tying up an entire channel with 1 call whereas a Phase 2 radio would be talking in TDMA mode and allowing for a second call per channel.

Also most P25 radios on the street today that are Phase 1 can be upgraded to Phase 2 with a flash upgrade. A county like Lanco that is buying all new Phase 1 radios now will most likely just need the flash upgrade to do Phase 2. Just depends on the vendor and when they were manufactured.

[dcr_inc]

Any movement on this system??.. Towers, Radios, Fleetmap .. Any Thing !!!

[lancopa]

Is there any new updates? It's been awhile and nothing.