Let's hear some GREat thoughts about 9-11-01 Events !

[Jay911]

This thread is like a honeypot for figuring out who to put in your ignore list.

com501: My condolences to you for your brother responders. I didn't personally know any of the people like you did, but I did recognize a lot of names of people who I'd engaged in forums and via reading articles they wrote in magazines and etc.

To insist that this is all made up is a gross insult to those peoples' memories, not to mention the people like you who have to go on without them.

[Michael-SATX]

Seriously, take a lQQk at this short 9/11 video of nano-thermite reactions compared to WTC observations.
Also, listen to the many FDNY members explain the explosions they heard and molten iron they saw flowing!
The video is very short and makes a pretty tough case for believing the "official story" as per NIST and Gov't !

So please watch and try to come back and "Debunk This"

(NEW 2012 WTC DEMOLITION PROOF) DEBUNK THIS (REMAKE) RARE FOOTAGE AND INTERVIEWS SHOWING NEW PROOF - YouTube

[krokus]

Originally Posted by Michael-SATX

...listen to the many FDNY members explain the explosions they heard and molten iron they saw flowing!

My guess would be it was molten aluminum and/or copper, not iron or steel.

As a side note to Michael, if you want people to take you seriously, start spelling properly. I do not mean that as an insult or personal attack, but most people will immediately dismiss you, based on your attempt at "cutesy" spelling.

[Jay911]

Originally Posted by krokus

My guess would be it was molten aluminum and/or copper, not iron or steel.

This is one of the biggest problems with the tinfoil crowd's interpretation of the statements made on that day. Besides the fact they selectively take some statements as gospel and throw out others, the statements they do take as ironclad are heavily laden with analogies and uninformed claims. Examples: "It sounded like a bomb going off" - to the tinfoil crowd, this means there were bombs used. To the person who made that statement, it means there was a loud noise (I'd bet the closest many of these people have been to hearing a bomb going off is in a movie or Saturday morning cartoons 20 years ago). To the tinfoil crowd, it couldn't possibly be an entire 208 ft x 208 ft floor span of cement crashing down on the floor below it as it is driven down by the weight of half an office tower above. The same kind of (absence of) logic applies to other statements like "molten metal" and all the fallacies they've invented about tower 7. "Pull", to them, never possibly could be a mis-remembered statement about evacuating the responders ("we've got to pull them out"), which is what it actually was according to interviews I've read from chiefs and officers I have great respect for (both before and after that terrible, tragic day).

Put another way, the tinfoil crowd, when hearing someone describe a tornado as sounding like "a freight train was barreling down the hallway at me", would insist that an actual freight train must have been inside that tornado.

[kb2vxa]

Yeah, that freight train analogy makes me laugh. As a rail fan I can tell you a freight train doesn't roar and a passenger train sounds very much the same. As for the bomb going off I have heard them too, military actually and it's not the sound but the concussion you actually feel, it's unmistakable. Those who say it sounded like a bomb going off never really heard one, it's purely a descriptive adjective.

Between the tin foil hats and those who can think this thread is about to grow painfully long, wait for it, but not for me, that's all I have to say.

[wingmaker]

I believe there is more to it also than what we are told, that is for sure. LOVE AND BLESSINGS

[Michael-SATX]

There is more to the story of 911, that United Flight 93 was shot down over PA to save lives
and not let it head to it's Wash DC target where there would have been far more loss of life !
The 8 mile long field of scattered debris supports this vs the made up "Let's Roll Hero Story".
I can imagine this one was to perhaps avoid sour feelings and law suits against the government.
That fatefull morning an F-16 from the NORAD Happy Houligan's squadran returned back to base
missing a sidewinder missle and the weapons loaders and ground crew were all a buzz with the
knowledge that "We Shot One Down". Also curious is that all flight data and flight voice recorders
and the NTSB reports of all the crashes are all still to this day held in secret by the FBI and are not
part of the public docket. But hey there is nothing to hide right ? I guess if I make it another 30 years
these events will all become declassified like the staged Gulf of Tonkin false flag event to enter the
Vietnam War to further $pecial intere$t agenda'$ ! Ah Wash DC a Special Interest club these days

[krokus]

NORAD doesn't have squadrons. Squadrons fall under wings, which are part of a component command.

The F-16s that were sent after flight 93 were part of a different squadron than the one you listed. They never made it far enough, to engage the airliner. (I have talked with one of the pilots, and seen the fighters.)

Please check facts, and not blindly follow some whacko website.

[Michael-SATX]

Krokus, thanks I had it wrong, the F-16 that took down flight 93 was not from a NORAD unit.
The F-16 was from the North Dakota Air National Guard's 119th Fighter Wing, that is know
as the Happy Hooligans. In an interview, Vice Pesident recalls telling President Bush,
(quote) "I recommend we authorize them to shoot". President Bush says: (Quote)
"Ok, I'll sign up for that". Strangely enough, VP Cheney recalls just as he was ordering the fighters to engage
United Flight 93, the blip on the radar screen crashed into the field just 80 miles from the capitol. Hmm ...

Light debris was also found eight miles away in New Baltimore. A section of engine weighing a ton
was located 2,000 yards - over a mile -from the crash site in Indian Lake. I might point out point out
that a Sidewinder heat-seeking missile attacks the hottest part of aircraft which is the the back of the engine.

One cannot fault the F-16 pilot for following orders and stopping the jet from making it's intended target.
That very F-16 pilot, who just happens to now live here in San Antonio, TX , was quoted by his PA rep
"Saying he was reluctant to fuel debate by responding to unsubstantiated charges" Ltc Gxxxxx declined
to comment according to Air National Guard spokesman Master Sgt David Somdahl (Public Affairs office).

[Michael-SATX]

"The Legend of 9/11: 10 Years On"

9/11 9/11 Provable Lies

http://ckpi.typepad.com/christopher_...et-engine.html

Some Info to pass along about the details of the WTC-South "Street Engine"

[com501]

I'm sorry, can I wait until tomorrow to read this? I'm all out of tin foil....

[Michael-SATX]

Originally Posted by com501

Perhaps your comment, rude at best, is off topic?

com501 your a hipocite, my proof is your defending comment above that I calling you out on !

Sure thing you can wait until tomorrow to read this thread that YOU chose to enter at your own doing.
Waiting is totally normal, like our government waiting a whopping 411 days to form the 911 commision.
Then after a blazing hurry to do that, it got delayed even further due to nonsense of naming none other than
Henry Kissinger to chair the 911 Commission. After he resigned under pressure due to conflicts of interest,
The 911 "Omisison Commision" was finally off to a roaring start 427 days after the events off Sept 11, 2001.
Reveiw history and past response times of just mere days to get the ball rolling forward and ask yourselves
"Did that seem like a goverment that really wanted to get to the truth" ? Not hardly, just shut-up & cover-up !

Ah, Debate-101 - If you can't rationally discuss something ... just roll with the put downs - works every time

[com501]

Well, it's amusing anyway, to watch you melt down over your crazy theories. Seriously, dude, have you ever been to a major disaster like the WTC? A shuttle crash? I have, BOTH. I have seen many airplanes and their occupants reduced to unrecognizable chunks and bits of flesh, tiny scraps of metal that look like I ran a CD through my shredder, and concrete reduced to its constituent components.

Are you a physics major? Do you have ANY idea of the energy involved here? Seriously, worry about something more important, like Obamacare or the NDAA. If I continue reading, the mind reading drone will be able to tap my thoughts, so I had better stop now, and put on my earbuds and listen to Stevie Wonder.

Sheesh.