Election 2012 Official RR Presidential Poll

[elk2370bruce]

So... The dysfunctional Congress will continue and some Republican leaders and Teabagger extremists are already building the walls for another standoff for the next four years. Had Romney not sold out his moderate roots to appease the far right loones (that led to his defeat), he would have been elected. Any bet that if Obama offers to cross the political aisle for some compromise (which he had not done) that he will be rebuffed by Speaker Bonehead and the House Majority Leader. Nothing will change and the American public will continue its slide into the abyss of financial collapse. No matter which party wins, the American public public will suffer to maintain the sanctity of partisan ideologies. I'm glad I have gold and silver investments,

[cronst10]

elk2370bruce, good investments, poloticians today care about one thing and it sure isn't you or I. Our fore farthers must be rolling in their graves at the mess these poloticians have created over these last decades. The rise and fall of American Empire.

[KD0TAZ]

Originally Posted by gr8rcall

KD0TAZ, edmscan:

I don't mind a little bit of arguing, but this has gone too far.

Edmscan, if you live in Canada I'm sure you have a reason (and, as you mentioned, it really wasn't your choice).

KD0TAZ, lay off of him, please

P.S. Since I'm the OP I think I have a right to ask this of you guys. I'm not moderating, or anything like that, just asking that we keep this thread respectable.

It may not have been his choice to go there, but now as an adult he is choosing to stay there and be a Canadian citizen. Had he made the same choice going there as an adult, he would've automatically forfeited his US citizenship. As such, he should not have any more say or opinion in our elections or how our government should work than any other Canadian - or any other country for that matter. What really pissed me off is how when questioned he claims "dual citizenship" in order to justify his right to a say.

[KD0TAZ]

Originally Posted by elk2370bruce

So... The dysfunctional Congress will continue and some Republican leaders and Teabagger extremists are already building the walls for another standoff for the next four years. Had Romney not sold out his moderate roots to appease the far right loones (that led to his defeat), he would have been elected. Any bet that if Obama offers to cross the political aisle for some compromise (which he had not done) that he will be rebuffed by Speaker Bonehead and the House Majority Leader. Nothing will change and the American public will continue its slide into the abyss of financial collapse. No matter which party wins, the American public public will suffer to maintain the sanctity of partisan ideologies. I'm glad I have gold and silver investments,

Wrong. Romney didn't lose because of anything he did (or didn't do), he lost because Obama ran a truly disgusting campaign of "Smear and Lie" - since he had no record to run on - and 56 million morons bought it hook line and sinker.

And of course that includes the millions of clueless 18-21 year old first time voters (who still live with their parents and have no idea what the real world is like because they don't pay for anything) who voted for him simply because Jay-Z and Eva Longoyria and whoever that stupid tw@t with the "your first time" commercial was -or their libtard college professor - told them to, the millions of blacks who voted for him for no reason other than he is black, and the millions of Latinos who voted for him (how many of them voted illegally we may never know) simply because he has been pushing blanket amnesty for illegals (an automatic 12million extra blue votes)

[K3HY]

When Romney had Karl Rove and Dick Cheney running his campaign, it was doomed to fail because of the previous failed administration that is still going to take many years to clean up their Republican mess.

[com501]

Good luck with that whole keep blaming the last guy thing.

Obummer has been President for four years. NOTHING has happened to make any American businessman happy with the economy. NOTHING has been done to lower unemployment. If anything, there has been a steady rise in unemployed, simply because the system doesn't count them anymore.

Who is Obummer going to blame now? The last term, the last President, the last decade, the college professors, his Choom Gang, who? The Democrats are NOT going to fix the economy, and Boehner and the House should NOT compromise. Its a life or death decision at this point for our country. Do we want to be the strongest nation on earth, or do we want to be like France and Greece?

The choice lies in how our President and the Senate manage the crap they have gotten us into.

[kayn1n32008]

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Com501: Obama did not get the US into the mess it is in now, more than one past president is also responsible. How easy you forget this. I'd was not Obama that choose to get into 2 wars, and it was not Obama that allowed the banks to 'self regulate' that caused the morgage Cluster F*ck. When Clinton left office the government was in surplus, when Obama came into power he inherited 2 wars, banks that were on the brink of going bankrupt, and an auto industry not far behind.

It is easy to spend money you do not have(credit)... MUCH MUCH harder to pay it back after the economy goes tits up.

Romney had no plan, except cut taxes, spend more on the military, and repeal Obamacare. People saw right through him. That and he did not connect with people(he was born with a Silver Spoon) and his own party cut his legs out from beneath him(gift from god rape ect) by turning womwn away from the Republican party.

Try watching something other than Faux News, and listen to something other than Rush and Howard. Wake up and realize that the course that the US finds its self on is NOT going to change in 4 or 8 or 20 years. It will take a generation MINIMUM of ZERO deficit spending (like Mitt had a chance in h*ll of balancing the buget) and some SERIOUS "belt tightning" PAIN that not one person in the whole US can even begin to imagine to have a hope in altering the course the US is on.

Stop blaming people for seeing Romney for what he is: a very mediocor candidate that had no REAL plan, just saying what he though people wanted to hear to get elected.

[Highpockets]

Originally Posted by kayn1n32008

Stop blaming people for seeing Romney for what he is: a very mediocor candidate that had no REAL plan, just saying what he though people wanted to hear to get elected.

How soon you forget what was obama four years ago, a community orginizer (experience) and a do nothing in the Senate. And it shows, wait until his second term is up, all you guys who believe this socialist tell me then what you think the USA looks like and how you feel about the job he's done. Remember that show "You Asked For It". You got him...

[KD0TAZ]

Originally Posted by kayn1n32008

Com501: Obama did not get the US into the mess it is in now, more than one past president is also responsible. How easy you forget this. I'd was not Obama that choose to get into 2 wars, and it was not Obama that allowed the banks to 'self regulate' that caused the morgage Cluster F*ck. When Clinton left office the government was in surplus, when Obama came into power he inherited 2 wars, banks that were on the brink of going bankrupt, and an auto industry not far behind.

It is easy to spend money you do not have(credit)... MUCH MUCH harder to pay it back after the economy goes tits up.

Romney had no plan, except cut taxes, spend more on the military, and repeal Obamacare. People saw right through him. That and he did not connect with people(he was born with a Silver Spoon) and his own party cut his legs out from beneath him(gift from god rape ect) by turning womwn away from the Republican party.

Try watching something other than Faux News, and listen to something other than Rush and Howard. Wake up and realize that the course that the US finds its self on is NOT going to change in 4 or 8 or 20 years. It will take a generation MINIMUM of ZERO deficit spending (like Mitt had a chance in h*ll of balancing the buget) and some SERIOUS "belt tightning" PAIN that not one person in the whole US can even begin to imagine to have a hope in altering the course the US is on.

Stop blaming people for seeing Romney for what he is: a very mediocor candidate that had no REAL plan, just saying what he though people wanted to hear to get elected.

Your talking points are hysterical. First of all, Clinton DID NOT leave a surplus. This mythical surplus that you idiots keep hawking about was nothing more than fuzzy math. For every $1 that Clinton added to this alleged "budget surplus", he added $2 to the national debt. Clinton also had the benefit of the dot-com bubble, which burst shortly after he left office. Because of the dot com bubble, employment was up, and people were paying more into taxes and social security. Since SS is not allowed to run a surplus, all of that money dumped into the general fund, where Clinton promptly borrowed (squandered) it.

The banking/mortgage crash also fall squarely on Clinton's actions. He was the one that put deregulation into motion - allowing banks and insurance companies to gobble each other up and become 'too big to fail', and gave Freddie and Fannie free reign to write toxic mortgages to people who couldnt afford them.

The auto industry crash is 100% the auto union's fault (the same auto union that gives Obama's testicles a daily tongue bath). They should not have been bailed out, they should've been forceed to go through bankruptcy just like every other business that mismanages its money.

And speaking of silver spoons, I'm more inclined to trust the guy who worked his @$$ off to make his millions and knows what it's like to work for a living over someone who has never held a job in his life.

[gr8rcall]

KD0TAZ,

I don't mean to insult you, but can you cut down on the language please? I think you're going a bit overboard...
I even mean using symbols to represent cuss words!

Again, not trying to be mean to you. Just want this thread to stay respectable!


Guys, we got some GREAT conversation here. Keep it going!

Thanks,
Gr8rcall

[K3HY]

Originally Posted by kayn1n32008

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Com501: Obama did not get the US into the mess it is in now, more than one past president is also responsible. How easy you forget this. I'd was not Obama that choose to get into 2 wars, and it was not Obama that allowed the banks to 'self regulate' that caused the morgage Cluster F*ck. When Clinton left office the government was in surplus, when Obama came into power he inherited 2 wars, banks that were on the brink of going bankrupt, and an auto industry not far behind.

Exactly right.
And just the fact that part of Romney's team were the cronies Karl Rove and Dick Cheney from the previous failed administration, was enough to bring back bad the memories of it being the worst administration in recent history.
Romney was so weak, that those 2 would have controlled him like a puppet.
Maybe by 2016, their next candidate will finally be smart enough to cut all ties from that previous failed administration totally.

[Highpockets]

Originally Posted by K3HY

Romney was so weak, that those 2 would have controlled him like a puppet.

You mean like George Soros controls obama?

[N1RGR]

Its obvious the American people care more about hand outs and free stuff than they do the economy. They care more about whats in it for me than they do the $16 trillion dollar debt.They care more about social issues than unemployment!

Good luck America...you ask for it you got it! Now brace yourself because were all about to go off the fiscal cliff!

[kayn1n32008]

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Originally Posted by N1RGR

Its obvious the American people care more about hand outs and free stuff than they do the economy. They care more about whats in it for me than they do the $16 trillion dollar debt.They care more about social issues than unemployment!

Good luck America...you ask for it you got it! Now brace yourself because were all about to go off the fiscal cliff!

You do not get it. The US is already fallen off the cliff. Nothing Obama OR Romney can or would or will do is going to change that. Get it? At $16T-ish debt, 4 years will not change squat. Even Romney would have run 1+Trillion dollar deficits for at least his first term. That's TRILLION. The US has lived well beyond its means ever since Clinton left office and at some point will have to pay the piper.

[K3HY]

Originally Posted by kayn1n32008

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You do not get it. The US is already fallen off the cliff. Nothing Obama OR Romney can or would or will do is going to change that. Get it? At $16T-ish debt, 4 years will not change squat. Even Romney would have run 1+Trillion dollar deficits for at least his first term. That's TRILLION. The US has lived well beyond its means ever since Clinton left office and at some point will have to pay the piper.

Just for entertainment purposes, I listened to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity's radio shows to see what there take on the election results were.
It's sort of like listening to Colbert's TV show, but more fun because you think of the pathetic "dittoheads" etc who take that stuff serious.
On today's shows both Hannity and Limbaugh blamed the voters for Romney's loss.
The funny thing is that you'll see the same exact nonsense from those shows, parroted on the forums.
You need to listen to those shows for comedy purposes and use your imagination of the anger their pathetic followers have because they don't know any better.

[Highpockets]

Originally Posted by K3HY

Just for entertainment purposes, I listened to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity's radio shows to see what there take on the election results were.
It's sort of like listening to Colbert's TV show, but more fun because you think of the pathetic "dittoheads" etc who take that stuff serious.
On today's shows both Hannity and Limbaugh blamed the voters for Romney's loss.
The funny thing is that you'll see the same exact nonsense from those shows, parroted on the forums.
You need to listen to those shows for comedy purposes and use your imagination of the anger their pathetic followers have because they don't know any better.

I always knew there was something wrong with you, you need to get some help and a life. The election is over, we as a country have to see if obama and the Congress can and will work together to help start to fix this country. I believe that can happen if obama can move towards the center, Clinton did it and the country benefited, if not nothing will be done. Speaking for myself, I can't see him moving to the center, but I hope I'm wrong.

Using statements now like Taliban Republican Tea Party, pathetic and the other hate comments, in my eyes al least, makes you look foolish.

[mike_gain]

I was going to participate in the vote, but you left several candidates out including the one I voted for !!!!

[Highpockets]

Originally Posted by mike_gain

I was going to participate in the vote, but you left several candidates out including the one I voted for !!!!

Roseanne Barr

[zz0468]

Originally Posted by KD0TAZ

Peachy for you. If thats what you want, stay there, tear up your green card (which should've been revoked anyway), and stay the hell out of things that don't concern you.

Since the U.S. is often referred to as the leader of the free world, it very much concerns Canadians. And even if it didn't, he has a right to express his opinion. You have a right to not read it.

[zz0468]

Originally Posted by KD0TAZ

Wrong. Romney didn't lose because of anything he did (or didn't do), he lost because Obama ran a truly disgusting campaign of "Smear and Lie" - since he had no record to run on - and 56 million morons bought it hook line and sinker.

Wow. You sound like a bitter little man. The fact is, more than half the voters out there didn't think Romney was a better choice. That doesn't make them morons.

Originally Posted by KD0TAZ

And of course that includes the millions of clueless 18-21 year old first time voters...

I've lived in a college town all my life, and I have to say, I am in constant amazement at the quality of thought expressed by those 18-21 year olds. They give me hope for our future. You do not.

Originally Posted by KD0TAZ

(who still live with their parents and have no idea what the real world is like because they don't pay for anything) who voted for him simply because Jay-Z and Eva Longoyria and whoever that stupid tw@t...

So, there's a complete lack of respect for different viewpoints, different age groups, and you're a misogynist to boot. I'm not seeing anything to work with, so far as having any intelligent conversation with you.

Originally Posted by KD0TAZ

with the "your first time" commercial was -or their libtard college professor - told them to, the millions of blacks who voted for him for no reason other than he is black, and the millions of Latinos who voted for him (how many of them voted illegally we may never know) simply because he has been pushing blanket amnesty for illegals (an automatic 12million extra blue votes)

And you're a racist too. What a winner.