Obama: President for life?

[kayn1n32008]

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Originally Posted by Jay911

I would be reasonably certain that posting that "Obama is going to try to become dictator for life" based on various senators and congressmen making multiple attempts in the past 20 years to repeal the restrictions on term limits most definitely does not fit what Kennedy had in mind when he spoke of 'debate'. The same goes for all the other nonsense people post insinuating that the sky is falling when in fact it's just cloudy.

Jay, do not let fact cloud the rhetoric! Even though people have tried for years to repeal 22, the sheeple will fall for the rhetoric and start to lose their sh*t thinking the US is becoming a dictatorship! Gotta love the lack of research done and the jump off the deep end

[N1RGR]

Originally Posted by K6ARL

kayn1n32008, your aforementioned efforts to give us an unearned, demeaning label is shameful, and I, for one, refuse to accept it, and therefore challenge you in the future to hold dialogue respectfully and truthfully, as I have done with you.

Don't set the bar very high for kayn. Insults are his only cash crop. Respectful dialogue is way out of his league.

[kayn1n32008]

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Originally Posted by N1RGR

Don't set the bar very high for kayn. Insults are his only cash crop. Respectful dialogue is way out of his league.

Ha. At least I live in reality. Where do you live N1RGR? When are you going to realize that the 50's were 60+ years ago and society has moved forward from then?

[Highpockets]

Originally Posted by kayn1n32008

Ha. At least I live in reality. Where do you live N1RGR? When are you going to realize that the 50's were 60+ years ago and society has moved forward from then?

Unless you went through those years, don't knock it. I'm sure some of the older users here will tell you living back then was much better in many ways then it is now. Family values, kids going out and playing, not sitting on the couch with their video games and cell phones getting obese. Many kids today have no respect for authority, so you say we are moving forward, well sit back and enjoy the ride because it's going to get worse.

Moving forward, today everyone wants their free Health Care, Education, Birth Control, Food Stamps and on and on. What happened to a little self respect, work hard, do an honest days work and do what you have to do to go though the ups and downs of everyday life.

Thank God for the older generation they got us this far, now lets see where the kids of today ready to start a family take us!

[N1RGR]

Originally Posted by kayn1n32008

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Ha. At least I live in reality. Where do you live N1RGR? When are you going to realize that the 50's were 60+ years ago and society has moved forward from then?

If living in moron-ville is your reality kayn then live it well!

[N1RGR]

Originally Posted by Highpockets

Unless you went through those years, don't knock it. I'm sure some of the older users here will tell you living back then was much better in many ways then it is now. Family values, kids going out and playing, not sitting on the couch with their video games and cell phones getting obese. Many kids today have no respect for authority, so you say we are moving forward, well sit back and enjoy the ride because it's going to get worse.

Moving forward, today everyone wants their free Health Care, Education, Birth Control, Food Stamps and on and on. What happened to a little self respect, work hard, do an honest days work and do what you have to do to go though the ups and downs of everyday life.

Thank God for the older generation they got us this far, now lets see where the kids of today ready to start a family take us!

Well said Pockets!

[kayn1n32008]

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Originally Posted by Highpockets

Unless you went through those years, don't knock it. I'm sure some of the older users here will tell you living back then was much better in many ways then it is now. Family values, kids going out and playing, not sitting on the couch with their video games and cell phones getting obese. Many kids today have no respect for authority, so you say we are moving forward, well sit back and enjoy the ride because it's going to get worse.

Moving forward, today everyone wants their free Health Care, Education, Birth Control, Food Stamps and on and on. What happened to a little self respect, work hard, do an honest days work and do what you have to do to go though the ups and downs of everyday life.

Thank God for the older generation they got us this far, now lets see where the kids of today ready to start a family take us!

Ha free health care. Good one. But I will say that I like being able to go to the hospital and not go bankrupt. My fiance was diagnosed with a blood clot in her calf. In and out, drugs in hand and less than 200 dollars spent.reality is that her, my, and all other Canadians taxes allow all Canadians access health care and Not have some HMO or insurance company make personal health decisions for her. Education for free??? Nope not even in Canada, unless your indigionus, then its free.

[zz0468]

Originally Posted by ridgescan

Gimme a break-you think he's pushing this so a republican can confiscate the office for 25 years??

If he's even semi-conscious, he should realize that could happen. I don't know what his point is, nor do I care. But this has nothing to do with Obama. Really.

[zz0468]

Originally Posted by Jay911

Do any of you guys serve any purpose on RR other than to stir up **** in the political and hot-button topics of the day?

Absolutely. Why don't you look at the posts made by the various participants of the politics forum.

[N1RGR]

Socialism=Greece and Spain! Woooot woooot...can I get some noise!

[N1RGR]

Originally Posted by zz0468

Absolutely. Why don't you look at the posts made by the various participants of the politics forum.

All those "Wacky" people! Lol.

[N1RGR]

Originally Posted by kayn1n32008

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When are you going to realize that the 50's were 60+ years ago and society has moved forward from then?

You call this moving forward? Today's America is void of any values! Its all about entitlements and whats in it for me. Its NOT about what we can do for our country...its about what our country can do for us! And if you take a stand against the out of control spending or the declining values in this country you are called an obstructionist.

In today's America you are labeled evil if you work hard and become successful.

In today's America you are considered at war with women if you are against government funded abortion.

Success in today's America is all about how much free stuff we can get off the backs of those who earned it. I call that stealing or as many commonly know it as as Socialism. Greece and Spain are some good examples of the failed Socialist experiment.

Maybe moving backwards is exactly what we need in this county. People need to look back at what made this country so great. People worked hard for what they earned...it was not handed to them! It was build on blood sweat and tears! Not entitlments.

So If you love Socialism up north then you can keep it there where it belongs. We conservatives want no part of it down here!

[DCB65]

Originally Posted by N1RGR

You call this moving forward? Today's America is void of any values! Its all about entitlements and whats in it for me. Its NOT about what we can do for our country...its about what our country can do for us! And if you take a stand against the out of control spending or the declining values in this country you are called an obstructionist.

In today's America you are labeled evil if you work hard and become successful.

In today's America you are considered at war with women if you are against government funded abortion.

Success in today's America is all about how much free stuff we can get off the backs of those who earned it. I call that stealing or as many commonly know it as as Socialism. Greece and Spain are some good examples of the failed Socialist experiment.

Maybe moving backwards is exactly what we need in this county. People need to look back at what made this country so great. People worked hard for what they earned...it was not handed to them! It was build on blood sweat and tears! Not entitlments.

So If you love Socialism up north then you can keep it there where it belongs. We conservatives want no part of it down here!

Well said sir, and you are absolutely correct!

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[Highpockets]

Originally Posted by kayn1n32008

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Ha free health care. Good one. But I will say that I like being able to go to the hospital and not go bankrupt. My fiance was diagnosed with a blood clot in her calf. In and out, drugs in hand and less than 200 dollars spent.reality is that her, my, and all other Canadians taxes allow all Canadians access health care and Not have some HMO or insurance company make personal health decisions for her. Education for free??? Nope not even in Canada, unless your indigionus, then its free.

How many percent of Canadians pay no taxes, do some ride for free like many do here. As far as who will make health decisions, I don't like that our government will get involved, they mess everything else they get involved in. Our Democrats want a system like yours and I'm not for that, where do Canadians with serious conditions go, across the border to the US.

As far as free education, that's what these kids want here, they are falling right in line with the give me, give me liberals. Pretty soon they will be 35 years old living at home with mom and dad, getting free health care, food stamps, and sitting on the couch smoking pot and texting that they have nothing to do. Searching for rallies they can attend to cry for more free stuff. Moving forward... "What do you old people know, get with it".

By the way, looks like you have a hard time putting that BlackBerry down, do you get them for free in Canada?

[kayn1n32008]

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Originally Posted by Highpockets

How many percent of Canadians pay no taxes, do some ride for free like many do here. As far as who will make health decisions, I don't like that our government will get involved, they mess everything else they get involved in. Our Democrats want a system like yours and I'm not for that, where do Canadians with serious conditions go, across the border to the US.

As far as free education, that's what these kids want here, they are falling right in line with the give me, give me liberals. Pretty soon they will be 35 years old living at home with mom and dad, getting free health care, food stamps, and sitting on the couch smoking pot and texting that they have nothing to do. Searching for rallies they can attend to cry for more free stuff. Moving forward... "What do you old people know, get with it".

By the way, looks like you have a hard time putting that BlackBerry down, do you get them for free in Canada?

Sadly the will always be a small percentage of people in ANY country that refuse to pay taxes. The down side to our health care is that for SOME things, there is no other place to go BUT the US. The other issue is that there are wait times here. BUT you will receive the medical care you need here no matter what. I believe that Education is key to building a strong and independent individual. Education is the foundation of a strong society. The easier it is to educate the people the better a society is. Education is the keyto eliminating poverty. Just look at the US. At one time the biggest technology advances happened in the US, not so much now. Now it is countries like Japan.

I have never asked for anything to be handed to me. Never will. I worked for what I have, and I do struggle. Yet my fianc? step brother who slacks, has 2 kids, and works for about 10 bucks an hour less than me can go on trips to Mexico. Why cause he does stuff that is less than legal for easy money. I am proud of where I am and what I have.

BB is not free. But it is a corporate phone. So yea I do take advantage of it because i have to be reachable with in a certain amount of time and I refuse to carry two phones with me BUT I do have my own phone that I pay for. Three actually if you count my house phone and the fianc? phone.

[Highpockets]

Originally Posted by kayn1n32008

Sadly the will always be a small percentage of people in ANY country that refuse to pay taxes. The down side to our health care is that for SOME things, there is no other place to go BUT the US. The other issue is that there are wait times here. BUT you will receive the medical care you need here no matter what. I believe that Education is key to building a strong and independent individual. Education is the foundation of a strong society. The easier it is to educate the people the better a society is. Education is the keyto eliminating poverty. Just look at the US. At one time the biggest technology advances happened in the US, not so much now. Now it is countries like Japan.

I have never asked for anything to be handed to me. Never will. I worked for what I have, and I do struggle. Yet my fianc? step brother who slacks, has 2 kids, and works for about 10 bucks an hour less than me can go on trips to Mexico. Why cause he does stuff that is less than legal for easy money. I am proud of where I am and what I have.

BB is not free. But it is a corporate phone. So yea I do take advantage of it because i have to be reachable with in a certain amount of time and I refuse to carry two phones with me BUT I do have my own phone that I pay for. Three actually if you count my house phone and the fianc? phone.

RGR will be happy to read this post, your starting to sound a little like a Conservative.

[K6ARL]

Hmmm.... Interesting that kayn can tell us about our political leaders when he doesn't even live in our country. And, since he says that there will always be a small percentage of people who refuse to pay taxes, I would argue that the percentage is actually quite high. And who can really blame them when the taxes we pay are already bad, and only going to get worse in 2014? Other than having the extended waiting time with government healthcare, there is the factor of emergency response. The response time for EMTs can skyrocket, or they can be entirely unavailable, because they will be required by law to respond to anyone who calls them for a sliver in their finger or ice for their beer (happened to my friend). Back to the original argument that this attempt to remove the restriction on term length was "no big deal," I would argue with the man who stood up at an Illinois gun control meeting: "the threat of tyranny is as real today as it was at the turn of the nineteenth century." Similarly, the possibility of this bill being put into law is just as real now as it was twenty or so years ago when it was first proposed. Therefore, we, in order to defend our liberty, are justified in making a big deal out of this issue.

As a parting thought, I wonder if people like kayn would be so enthusiastic about it if the senate and White House were controlled by conservatives. :/

[mikepdx]

Originally Posted by K6ARL

Hmmm.... Interesting that kayn can tell us about
our political leaders when he doesn't even live in our country.

In defense of our neighbors to the north: They have a perfect right
to comment on our political system, particularly since US decisions
can often affect all Canadian's lives directly. Money, trade, etc.

On the other hand, I cannot think of any decision made in the
Canadian parliament that affects all American's lives.

Canadians don't live in a news vacuum.
Many know as much as we do about the American system,
while most Americans can't even name the Prime Minister of Canada.

An outside perspective can be good, as
sometimes we can't see the forest for the trees.

[TinMan61]

The United States has been forced to take on the cost of defense for several countries - including our Canadian friends.

No one asks Canada to send billion$, and hospital ships, which do double-duty as mobile power nuclear power plants to places like Haiti, Chile, Iran, Turkey, Indonesia. Japan, or for reasons like earthquake rescue/recovery, tsunami rescue/recovery, earthquake-and-tsunami-and-nuclear-meltdown rescue/recovery...all at zero cost to the stricken country.

Then, America(ns) subsidizes ALL of Canada's prescription drug benefits so that Canadians get HUGE discounts, while the free-market in the US supports all research & development costs...which are spread out over a much smaller, but wealthier (per capita) population.

No, your arguments hold no water and are incredibly arrogant - we Americans pay more because the rest of the globe wants to pay less...

You're going to know what it feels like soon my Canuck friends...because as we become like you...there are fewer of us who will be willing to work to support more of you.

Ahh...the liberation of socialism...making us all equal in...poverty!


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[kayn1n32008]

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Originally Posted by Highpockets

RGR will be happy to read this post, your starting to sound a little like a Conservative.

Actually Highpockets, I do more closely fall into the conservative mind set than Liberal. BUT I would never give up government funded health care, nor would I want to do away with a social safety net. How ever I do believe that those that abuse the system should be cut loose. I believe that there should be mandatory drug testing to be eligible for welfare. I believe that accessible useful skills training is vital to a modern scociety, as is affordable education. In many ways N1RGR and I are politically alike, but where we differ is bringing "Christian views" into it. Specifically abortion. I will always stand up for a woman's right to choose herself wether to have an abortion or not. I do not believe one can say I believe in a persons freedoms and turn around and tell a woman she can not choose to have an abortion. You are either all in or not at all, there is no half way. I believe that parents should be allowed to spank their children, and that a lot of behaviours that i see that I would have NEVER even dreamed of doing.