Obama: President for life?

mikepdx · #1 (**permalink**) 01-22-2013, 6:19 PM

H.J.Res.15 - Proposing an amendment to the Constitution
of the United States to repeal the twenty-second article of
amendment, thereby removing the limitation on the
number of terms an individual may serve as President.

info at congress.gov:
H.J.Res.15 - Congress.gov

zz0468 · #2 (**permalink**) 01-22-2013, 6:28 PM

What does this have to do with Obama?

I expect (and hope) that this falls flat. People have made ir clear that we want to expand term limits, not repeal them.

ridgescan · #3 (**permalink**) 01-22-2013, 7:38 PM

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Originally Posted by zz0468

What does this have to do with Obama?

I expect (and hope) that this falls flat. People have made ir clear that we want to expand term limits, not repeal them.

Gimme a break-you think he's pushing this so a republican can confiscate the office for 25 years??

Jay911 · #4 (**permalink**) 01-22-2013, 8:14 PM

Do any of you guys serve any purpose on RR other than to stir up **** in the political and hot-button topics of the day? I mean, do you contribute anything to the radio or the reference part of things?

snopes.com: Bill to Repeal the 22nd Amendment

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Originally Posted by snopes

Although Rep. Serrano may be a Democrat, the rhetoric quoted above stating that the purpose of his proposal for repealing the 22nd amendment is specifically to "pave the way to make Barack Obama president for life" is not supported by the facts.

Rep. Serrano has introduced the very same proposal to Congress every two years since 1997 (a total of nine times), regardless of which party was currently occupying the White House and starting well before Barack Obama became involved in national politics. On the first two occasions (in 1997 and 1999) the incumbent president was a Democrat (Bill Clinton); the next four occasions (2001, 2003, 2005, and again in 2007), were after the election of a Republican (George W. Bush).

Rep. Serrano's 2013 bill is the third time he has proposed that same legislation to Congress since the election of Barack Obama, following similar efforts in 2009 and 2011.

Likewise, another Democrat, Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, introduced a similar proposal six times in recent years, also regardless of which party was currently occupying the White House. Hoyer introduced such proposals in 1995, 1997, and 1999 (all during the presidency of Bill Clinton), and again in 2001, 2003, and 2005 (all during the presidency of George W. Bush).

Other members of Congress who have offered similar proposals in the last twenty years include the following:

- Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts (Democrat): 1995, 1997, and 1999 (all during the presidency of Bill Clinton).
- Rep. David Dreier of California (Republican): 1997 (during the presidency of Bill Clinton).
- Rep. Jerrold Nadler of New York (Democrat): 1995 (during the presidency of Bill Clinton).
- Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky (Republican): 1995 (during the presidency of Bill Clinton).
- Rep. Guy Vander Jagt of Michigan (Republican): 1991 (during the presidency of George H.W. Bush).
- Rep. Martin Sabo of Minnesota (Democratic-Farmer-Labor): 1991 (during the presidency of George H.W. Bush).

According to our survey, not a single one of these proposals was ever so much as brought to a vote before Congress (they were all referred to committee and languished there), much less passed and sent to the states for ratification.

ridgescan · #5 (**permalink**) 01-22-2013, 9:11 PM

Anyone know why this guy keeps pushing for this? It's kinda pointless. What's his angle if any?

mikepdx · #6 (**permalink**) 01-22-2013, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay911

Do any of you guys serve any purpose on RR other than to stir up **** in the political and hot-button topics of the day?
I mean, do you contribute anything to the radio or the reference part of things?

Pardon us for posting "political and hot-button topics
of the day" IN THE POLITICS FORUM!

What could we be thinking posting on topic subjects here?

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N1RGR · #7 (**permalink**) 01-23-2013, 8:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay911

Do any of you guys serve any purpose on RR other than to stir up **** in the political and hot-button topics of the day? I mean, do you contribute anything to the radio or the reference part of things?

I contribute by spreading conservative wisdom throughout the RR universe! And when Im not bashing liberal Democrats and Atheists in the Political or Religion forums you can generally catch me in the utility monitoring forum.

N1RGR · #8 (**permalink**) 01-23-2013, 8:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikepdx

Pardon us for posting "political and hot-button topics
of the day" IN THE POLITICS FORUM!

Keep up the good work Mike! The Canadians are getting restless.

N1RGR · #9 (**permalink**) 01-23-2013, 8:43 AM

Imagine Obama President for life! That is some scary crap!

InlandAZ · #10 (**permalink**) 01-23-2013, 9:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ridgescan

Gimme a break-you think he's pushing this so a republican can confiscate the office for 25 years??

If I recall correctly, he's proposed this many times - including those times when Republicans were in office. I'm not sure what his deal is, but it doesn't stand a chance.

kayn1n32008 · #11 (**permalink**) 01-23-2013, 9:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay911

Do any of you guys serve any purpose on RR other than to stir up **** in the political and hot-button topics of the day? I mean, do you contribute anything to the radio or the reference part of things?

snopes.com: Bill to Repeal the 22nd Amendment

Quote:

Originally Posted by snopes

Although Rep. Serrano may be a Democrat, the rhetoric quoted above stating that the purpose of his proposal for repealing the 22nd amendment is specifically to "pave the way to make Barack Obama president for life" is not supported by the facts.

Rep. Serrano has introduced the very same proposal to Congress every two years since 1997 (a total of nine times), regardless of which party was currently occupying the White House and starting well before Barack Obama became involved in national politics. On the first two occasions (in 1997 and 1999) the incumbent president was a Democrat (Bill Clinton); the next four occasions (2001, 2003, 2005, and again in 2007), were after the election of a Republican (George W. Bush).

Rep. Serrano's 2013 bill is the third time he has proposed that same legislation to Congress since the election of Barack Obama, following similar efforts in 2009 and 2011.

Likewise, another Democrat, Rep. Steny Hoyer of Maryland, introduced a similar proposal six times in recent years, also regardless of which party was currently occupying the White House. Hoyer introduced such proposals in 1995, 1997, and 1999 (all during the presidency of Bill Clinton), and again in 2001, 2003, and 2005 (all during the presidency of George W. Bush).

Other members of Congress who have offered similar proposals in the last twenty years include the following:

- Rep. Barney Frank of Massachusetts (Democrat): 1995, 1997, and 1999 (all during the presidency of Bill Clinton).
- Rep. David Dreier of California (Republican): 1997 (during the presidency of Bill Clinton).
- Rep. Jerrold Nadler of New York (Democrat): 1995 (during the presidency of Bill Clinton).
- Sen. Mitch McConnell of Kentucky (Republican): 1995 (during the presidency of Bill Clinton).
- Rep. Guy Vander Jagt of Michigan (Republican): 1991 (during the presidency of George H.W. Bush).
- Rep. Martin Sabo of Minnesota (Democratic-Farmer-Labor): 1991 (during the presidency of George H.W. Bush).

According to our survey, not a single one of these proposals was ever so much as brought to a vote before Congress (they were all referred to committee and languished there), much less passed and sent to the states for ratification.

It does make for some entertaining reading especially N1RGR, the ultra-conservative sheeple!!! I mean why search for the truth when you can post a half truth and get the rest of the ultra conservatives foaming at the mouth with some BS bill that would never have a snowballs chance in H*ll of being passed.

Always fun to get our American neighbours to the south going!!!

Jay911 · #12 (**permalink**) 01-23-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by kayn1n32008

I mean why search for the truth when you can post a half truth and get the rest of the ultra conservatives foaming at the mouth with some BS

I just don't understand what these people hope to accomplish by posting this kind of completely false BS. The part that is "some scary crap" is that these guys presumably can vote (and thus the fate of their country is in their hands).

kayn1n32008 · #13 (**permalink**) 01-23-2013, 10:15 AM

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It is easier to get the ultra-cons going with half truths, thus getting them into a tizzy that the sky is falling. Kinda like the whole 'death boards' with socialized health care. The truth is an inconvenience to the ultra-conservative propaganda machine.

K6ARL · #14 (**permalink**) 01-23-2013, 10:25 AM

I refuse to let anyone brand me or my conservative friends as "sheeple." Similarly I refuse to allow stand by quietly as we are called "hate-mongers," "teabaggers," or any other term which (as are the previous three) are designed to demean, discourage, and damage those of us who choose a conservative stance-- we who stand up for our selves, our families, and our friends.

kayn1n32008, your aforementioned efforts to give us an unearned, demeaning label is shameful, and I, for one, refuse to accept it, and therefore challenge you in the future to hold dialogue respectfully and truthfully, as I have done with you.

Respectfully,
Karl

P.S. the two-term limit for the presidency was enacted in order to ensure that our leaders and their descendants would not be able to rule indefinitely, as has happened in Korea, for example.

Jay911 · #15 (**permalink**) 01-23-2013, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by K6ARL

I, for one, refuse to accept it, and therefore challenge you in the future to hold dialogue respectfully and truthfully, as I have done with you.

How about you and your like-minded folks use respect and truth in the first place? The original post is a blatant falsehood, implying that Obama is trying to become "president for life", when it's clearly been demonstrated that that is plainly not the case, and not being initiated by Obama in any case.

You (collectively) would gain a ton more credibility and respect if you'd stop posting these ridiculous lies and half-truths engineered to incite rage and unrest.

elk2370bruce · #16 (**permalink**) 01-23-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by N1RGR

Imagine Obama President for life! That is some scary crap!

The mere thought of that has made my hair whiter than John McCane's. Shudder the thought. Term limits for ALL elected/lobby supported denizens infecting our nation's capitol is what is called for. Such an amendment is an exercise in futility.

kayn1n32008 · #17 (**permalink**) 01-23-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by K6ARL

I refuse to let anyone brand me or my conservative friends as "sheeple." Similarly I refuse to allow stand by quietly as we are called "hate-mongers," "teabaggers," or any other term which (as are the previous three) are designed to demean, discourage, and damage those of us who choose a conservative stance-- we who stand up for our selves, our families, and our friends.

kayn1n32008, your aforementioned efforts to give us an unearned, demeaning label is shameful, and I, for one, refuse to accept it, and therefore challenge you in the future to hold dialogue respectfully and truthfully, as I have done with you.

Respectfully,
Karl

P.S. the two-term limit for the presidency was enacted in order to ensure that our leaders and their descendants would not be able to rule indefinitely, as has happened in Korea, for example.

I have zero issue with people having conservative beliefs. My issue is those that would, both The US, and Canada, that would like to take our respective countries back to the 1800's, deny women the right to make choices for them selves and absolve themselves from any social responsibility for the poor that, in a lot of cases have had zero control over their lot in life. At no time have I ever called you a conservative 'sheeple' N1RGR on the other hand has time and time again demonstrated that he will tow the ultra conservative line no matter how badly the party is out of touch with modern society. When a person blindly tows the party line, regardless if they are conservative OR liberal, I will call them out as the sheeple that they are.

kayn1n32008 · #18 (**permalink**) 01-23-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by N1RGR

Imagine Obama President for life! That is some scary crap!

A lot less scary than Mitt Romney or John Macain as president.

mikepdx · #19 (**permalink**) 01-23-2013, 12:55 PM

A little bit of wisdom from the 35th that all sides can agree with:

"Without debate, without criticism, no administration and no country
can succeed-- and no republic can survive. That is why the Athenian
lawmaker Solon decreed it a crime for any citizen to shrink from controversy".

- President John F. Kennedy, April 27, 1961

Jay911 · #20 (**permalink**) 01-23-2013, 1:19 PM

I would be reasonably certain that posting that "Obama is going to try to become dictator for life" based on various senators and congressmen making multiple attempts in the past 20 years to repeal the restrictions on term limits most definitely does not fit what Kennedy had in mind when he spoke of 'debate'. The same goes for all the other nonsense people post insinuating that the sky is falling when in fact it's just cloudy.