Favorites List not Working as Expected

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Hi all, my first post on this forum, feel free to ignore the italics part.

Hey y'all, I come from RDForum, and currently own:
  • Uniden SDS200
  • Uniden Pro501HH
  • Motorola XTS 5000R
  • Mobile ADS-B setup, UAT + ADS-B (978 MHz + 1090 MHz)
I recently moved to Nevada from the Great White North (Canada) and am optimizing my mobile setup. I joined this forum because of @mikeoxlong from the RDForum. Excited to be here, my knowledge of radio is limited, but I am excited to learn more and develop my knowledge without being too annoying to the rest of y'all!
OK, now to the issue I am facing:
  • Uniden SDS200, created a new Favourites List for my new location
  • When reading the Favourites List using the scanner, only 2/4 of my systems scan
  • I have verified that the Select Service Types are on
  • In the scanner, I can see all four systems in my Favourites List
  • However the scanner only scans 2/4 systems:
    • These 2 systems are conventional
    • The 2 systems not scanning are EDACS and P25
    • The 2 systems not scanning scan fine when I load in the full database
Any tips as to what I might be doing wrong here? Thank you so much in advance!
 
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That worked like a charm! Thank you so very much!

What did you do differently!
Added all the EDACS frequencies with LCN (Wasn't aware it was an EDACS system, or didn't pay attention closely, in which all the frequencies are needed to trunk track). Utilized Quick Keys amongst a few other tweaks. When you have a chance, go through the programming and edit as you'd like. It's a starting point at least.

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Location settings , it could be only seeing a certain range , u might need to increase your range to 50 miles or something. Or turn on location settings , see if GPS coordinates are correct on the location setup of the system
 

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Location settings , it could be only seeing a certain range , u might need to increase your range to 50 miles or something. Or turn on location settings , see if GPS coordinates are correct on the location setup of the system
Checked this, maxed out range at 50 miles, and also tried using Zip Code.

How would I check the systems GPS locations? Here are the systems that aren't working:

Nevada Shared Radio System
Washoe County Regional Communications System (WCRCS)

Also - if these systems work fine when not part of a database, it's likely not a location issue, right?
 

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Couple of thoughts:

1. Verify you entered the correct zip code
2. Look in the manual at the "Nothing to Scan" (also on this site) which could give you some thoughts. You are not getting this message, but some of the things that cause the message can be in play.
3. You could also turn OFF the Favorites List and turn ON the full database and see if the scanner receives the "missing" systems. If it does, that suggests an issue with your programming. (You may have missed importing something, done an inadvertent deletion of something, etc.)
 

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Uniden SDS200, created a new Favourites List for my new location
When reading the Favourites List using the scanner, only 2/4 of my systems scan
Push the System button while in scan mode. Wait 3 seconds and push it again and start turning the selector wheel to see what systems are in scan. If those two systems are not seen then go down in the scanners menu, Manage Favorites, select your favorite, Review/Edit System, select your systems that are not scanned, Edit Sys Option, Set Avoid, and select Stop Avoiding.

If the systems turned up during the turn of the selector then go up in the menu a couple of steps to the system name, select Edit Site and Edit department and select the sites and departments and select to Stop Avoiding.

When in the menu after you have selected your favorite list, go to Use Location Control and turn that off.

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Checked this, maxed out range at 50 miles, and also tried using Zip Code.

How would I check the systems GPS locations? Here are the systems that aren't working:

Nevada Shared Radio System
Washoe County Regional Communications System (WCRCS)

Also - if these systems work fine when not part of a database, it's likely not a location issue, right?
I’m sure the FCC database has site locations listed if you type in the frequencies. DownUnder we have the ACMA (FCC) equivalent database and when we type in the frequency, it comes up with the company who’s the licensee and the GPS coordinates of the site.
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Please export and attach your favorites lists so that we can take a look at them. Go to the File tab in Sentinel and click on Export to hpe file (Favorites List). You will need to right click on the exported files and Send to Compressed (zipped) folder to be able to attach them. Click on Attach files and open the zipped folder. What is your city in Nevada?
 

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Please export and attach your favorites lists so that we can take a look at them. Go to the File tab in Sentinel and click on Export to hpe file (Favorites List). You will need to right click on the exported files and Send to Compressed (zipped) folder to be able to attach them. Click on Attach files and open the zipped folder. What is your city in Nevada?
Thank you so much for offering to look at this for me. I've attached it here.

I am in Sparks, NV. You can load in zip code 89434 if you would like to simulate location.

Thank you very much in advance for looking at this for me :) I appreciate it a lot.
 

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  • However the scanner only scans 2/4 systems:
    • These 2 systems are conventional
    • The 2 systems not scanning are EDACS and P25
The two trunking systems that you created don't have any sites assigned to them. When you import from the database, all that information is included and the reason for this issue.
 

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The two trunking systems that you created don't have any sites assigned to them. When you import from the database, all that information is included and the reason for this issue.
Thanks for looking at the list for me!

Below, the WCRCS System, has the Nevada Highway Patrol Site, and Reno 1, 2 etc. as Talk Groups:

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Am I reading something wrong here, I am under the impression that Nevada Highway Patrol, Mutual Aid, Pyramid Lake Indian Reservation etc are "systems"
 

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Thanks for looking at the list for me!

Below, the WCRCS System, has the Nevada Highway Patrol Site, and Reno 1, 2 etc. as Talk Groups:

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Am I reading something wrong here, I am under the impression that Nevada Highway Patrol, Mutual Aid, Pyramid Lake Indian Reservation etc are "systems"

Yes they are. But for each trunking system, you need a site.

Favorite List..System...Site... Department...Channels/Talkgroups. You're missing the Site portion of the programming structure. The scanner has to find a"site frequency", to trunk track. What you have is the Talkgroups...site is missing.
 

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Yes they are. But for each trunking system, you need a site.

Favorite List..System...Site... Department...Channels/Talkgroups. You're missing the Site portion of the programming structure. The scanner has to find a"site frequency", to trunk track. What you have is the Talkgroups...site is missing.
I think I get this now.

For example, the site for WCRCS would be this:

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Correct?

I was wondering why it would always add this site, so I kept removing it, oops!
 

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It appears so. I'm looking at it from my phone, but if there are frequencies in there, yes.
Thanks for this, looking to add this and see the following:

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It's greyed out for adding to my favorites list. Is this expected behavior? Do I have to assign it elsewhere?

Thanks in advance!
 
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