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Did some searching and haven't really found any info for fort Mac. Other then the RCMP is fire/ems able to be scanned out here. I'm in a camp close to anzac but haven't been able to spend much time searching.
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Wood Buffalo County, Alberta (AB) Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference includes Firenet frequencies as well. Airport is listed under Other Agencies. I didn`t look at any other search of this forum but could be more. As well, if not aware of: http://sd.ic.gc.ca/pls/engdoc_anon/w...see_name_input and put in McMurray or other places near you might bring up some frequencies.

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Ok maybe I'm missing it. But was looking fire fire ems. Are they just on the firenet system.
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Well, since I don`t go to Ft. Mac, I really can`t say. Firenet will get busy as the snow leaves and it dries up up their. He is a link to some of the hits I get when searching this forum for Fort Mac. Some of these threads are old and a lot of the companies have gone digital. Someone in that area might have more info. that could be shared or have the RR database updated. Here is the search: The RadioReference.com Forums - Search Results
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Ya punched those in but haven't heard anything in 5 days so I'm guess those are old ones. Well thanks for the help.
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FireNet is only for forestry firefighting, fish & wildlife, conservation officers (park rangers) and the like. Fire and EMS aren't in the RadioReference database because they haven't been confirmed by anyone yet.

I just did a quick Geographic Search on Spectrum Direct for 50km around Fort McMurray and got around 1700 frequencies between 138 and 956 MHz. Give me a bit to look at the data and I'll post something.

Off the top of my head there are a metric buttload of trunked radio systems that are as-yet-undiscovered up there. One or two of them have switched to TRBO, but at least one is P25 and partially listed in the DB.

Be back in a bit, hopefully with some fodder for you to check out.
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Some old records of mine show that the main fire / ambulance frequency was 169.92 which still appears to be licensed to the region. However it may just be a paging frequency as there is it is licensed as a simplex channel only.

The regional municipality has quite a few licensed frequencies. Here is a list;

Tabular Results > TAFL Search with Google Maps Output

My bet is that there are a few Fire / Ambulance frequencies in there but some may also be used for public works, SCADA, pumping station telemetry, etc.

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169.92 is listed as "Aircraft" in the virtual license.

I did find some fire related frequencies in the municipal licenses. I don't know if the FD does EMS; there're no licenses for Alberta Health Services nor any private companies. One place has 158.760 licensed "for ambulance communicaitons".

453.175 - Fort MacKay Fire Pagers
453.4375 - Saprae Creek Fire Pagers
453.0875 - Anzac Fire Pagers

460.0375
460.6375
460.9125
461.1625
461.6125
462.2875
469.0125

453.3125
451.025
451.9125
451.2125
451.15
454.125
462.9125

The first batch of frequencies above appear to be a "voting repeater" system of some sort for municipal operations in the town of Fort McMurray itself. One of the voting sites is on Fort McMurray Fire Station #2. The second batch of frequencies are on various sites in the region and are non-specific about what they are used for ("Licensee's stations licensee's mobiles").

I need to correct myself - Northern Lights Health Authority has two frequencies. They might be ambulance or might just be YMM Hospital.

461.8125
457.0875 - Pagers

The 461 frequency has an emission designation of 7k60F7E which is usually indicative of MotoTRBO or similar DMR (non-P25 digital) modulation.

ATCO Electric is the utility provider and has a bunch of analog repeaters as well as what should be some P25 sites. If you can help pin them down, that'd be awesome.

Analog:
140.4 Pagers/Simplex
138.735 Fort McMurray
138.975 Fort McMurray
138.885 Ruth Lake
138.855 Stoney Mountain
138.975 Algar
138.705 Muskeg
138.825 Dunkirk River

Possible P25:
138.915 Fort McMurray
138.78 Ruth Lake
139.08 Stoney Mountain
139.2 Algar
138.96 Muskeg
138.54 Dunkirk River

ATCO Gas has some analog repeaters.

159.645 Anzac
153.59 Dover
152.045 Fort McMurray

There's an AFRRCS site at Algar - may or may not be active yet.

771.90625
772.75625
773.29375
774.08125

Fort McMurray Search & Rescue has a transportable repeater.

162.18

As I said earlier, there are a ton of trunking systems in the area.
First off, the one that is already in the RRDB as a P25 system may not be P25 - the emissions designator in the Spectrum Direct license implies that it's NXDN/Nexedge.

Fluor Kearl Lake:
410.0875
410.2375
410.3625
410.675
410.85
411.0375
411.1875
411.3375
411.4875
411.7125
411.9125
422.2125
422.3625
422.4875
422.5875
422.7
424.2625
424.3625
424.475
424.7

Canadian Natural Resources has several systems. First, the one that has been in the database forever. Probably a Motorola system, but you can't tell just from what's in Spectrum Direct.

CNRL Horizon 1:
853.3125
853.5625
853.8125
854.0625
854.3125
854.8125
855.0625
855.3125
855.5625
855.8125
856.0625
856.3125
856.5625
856.8125
857.0625
858.0625
858.3125
858.5625
858.8125
859.0625

Now they have a pair of licenses which have TRBO emissions designators (which DO show up in Spectrum Direct):

CNRL Horizon 1:
935.125
935.375
935.625
935.875
936.125
936.375
936.625
936.875
937.125
937.375
937.625
937.875
938.25
938.5

CNRL Horizon 2:
935.2125
935.4625
935.7125
935.9625
936.2125
936.4625
936.7125
936.9625
937.2125
937.6875
937.9375
938.3125
938.5625
939.8875

Imperial Oil has three separate systems at their Kearl Lake site which have emissions designation 9k80D7W, which is indicative of P25 Phase II according to the RR wiki:

Imperial Kearl Main:
858.2125
858.4625
858.7125
858.9625
859.2125
860.1375
860.3875
860.6375
860.8875
861.1375
861.3125
861.5625
861.8125
862.0625
862.3125

Imperial Kearl Shelter 1:
865.0125
865.2625
865.5125
865.7625

Imperial Kearl Shelter 2:
865.1375
865.3875
865.6375
865.8875

Klemke Mining might have a small TRBO system at Suncor:
148.24
148.675
148.945

Nexen has two 800 MHz trunks of unknown type at Long Lake:
862.6125
862.8625
863.1125
863.3625
863.6125
863.8625
864.1125
864.3625
864.6125
864.8625

854.7625
855.0125
855.2625
855.5125
855.7625

Shell has two unknown 800 systems:

Jackpine:
853.2625
853.5125
853.7625
854.0125
854.2625
862.5375
862.7875
863.0375
863.2875
863.5375
863.7875
864.0375
864.2875
864.5375
864.7875

Albian:
852.0375
852.1125
852.2875
852.3625
852.5375
852.6125
852.7875
852.8625
853.0375
853.1125
856.0125
856.2625
856.5125
856.7625
857.0125
858.0125
858.2625
858.5125
858.7625
859.0125
860.0125
860.2625
860.5125
860.7625
861.0125

Suncor has a bunch! First the unknown 800 systems that have been around forever:

Firebag:
852.0875
852.3375
852.5875
852.8375
853.0875
856.1375
856.3875
856.6375
856.8875
857.1375

Voyageur:
852.0125
852.2625
852.5125
852.7625
853.0125

Pond 1:
853.4625
853.7125
853.9625
854.2125
854.4625
854.9625
855.2125
855.4625
855.7125
855.9625
856.2125
856.4625
856.7125
856.9625
857.2125
861.3875
861.6375
861.8875
862.1375
862.3875

And some systems that, according to emissions, are TRBO/DMR:

"NSE" (?)
937.5125
937.7625
938.1375
938.3875
938.7625
939.0125
939.3875
939.6375

"S Booster" (presumably south of the above):
937.5875
937.8375
938.2125
938.4625
938.8375
939.0875
939.4625
939.7125

Voyageur:
935.0375
935.2875
935.5375
935.7875
936.0375
936.2875

Fort McMurray Steepbank:
936.425
936.675
936.925
937.175
937.6625
937.9125
938.2875
938.5375
938.9125
939.1625
939.5375
939.7875

Syncrude also has a bunch -

Mildred Lake Mine:
854.9125
855.1625
855.4125
855.6625
855.9125
861.3375
861.5875
861.8375
862.0875
862.3375
862.5875
862.7375
862.8375
862.9875
863.0875
863.2375
863.3375
863.4875
863.5875
863.8375
864.0875
864.3375
864.5875
864.8375

Mildred Lake Main Site:
853.4125
853.6625
853.9125
854.1625
854.4125
854.8375
855.0875
855.3375
855.5875
855.8375
856.0875
856.3375
856.5875
856.8375
857.0875
858.0875
858.3375
858.5875
858.8375
859.0875
860.1625
860.4125
860.6625
860.9125

Aurora 1:
852.1625
852.4125
852.6625
852.9125
853.1625
856.1625
856.4125
856.6625
856.9125
857.1625
858.1625
858.4125
858.6625
858.9125
859.1625
860.0875
860.3375
860.5875
860.8375
861.0875

Aurora 2:
852.2375
852.4875
852.7375
852.9875
853.2375
853.2875
853.5375
853.7875
854.0375
854.2875
854.7875
855.0375
855.2875
855.5375
855.7875
861.4875
861.7375
861.9875
862.2375
862.4875

Total Energy has a TRBO/DMR system, but I'm not sure what its status would be since someone (Suncor?) bought out Total's share in the oilsands last month:

Joslyn North Mine:
935.0625
935.3125
935.5625
935.8125
936.0625
936.3125
936.5625
936.8125
937.0625
937.3125
937.5625
937.8125
938.1875

Tridon Communications has two wide-area systems explicitly stated in their licenses as NXDN and TRBO respectively:

NXDN:
424.1125 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SUNCOR SITE
424.3875 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SUNCOR SITE
424.525 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SUNCOR SITE
409.5 FT. MCMURRAY AB GREGOIRE SITE
424.4875 FT. MCMURRAY AB GREGOIRE SITE
424.7875 FT. MCMURRAY AB GREGOIRE SITE
409.5125 FORT MACKAY, AB SW-19-94-10 W4
424.2125 FORT MACKAY, AB SW-19-94-10 W4
424.50625 FORT MACKAY, AB SW-19-94-10 W4
409.50625 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SYNCRUDE
424.5 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SYNCRUDE
424.6875 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SYNCRUDE
422.9375 FORT MCMURRAY AB 10017 QUEEN STREET
424.5 FORT MCMURRAY AB 10017 QUEEN STREET

TRBO Connect Plus:
151.955 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SUNCOR SITE
162.885 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SUNCOR SITE
163.725 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SUNCOR SITE
164.415 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SUNCOR SITE
164.595 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SUNCOR SITE
151.94 FT. MCMURRAY AB GREGOIRE SITE
163.71 FT. MCMURRAY AB GREGOIRE SITE
164.37 FT. MCMURRAY AB GREGOIRE SITE
164.865 FT. MCMURRAY AB GREGOIRE SITE
165.33 FT. MCMURRAY AB GREGOIRE SITE
162.885 FORT MACKAY, AB SW-19-94-10 W4
163.755 FORT MACKAY, AB SW-19-94-10 W4
164.34 FORT MACKAY, AB SW-19-94-10 W4
164.52 FORT MACKAY, AB SW-19-94-10 W4
164.595 FORT MACKAY, AB SW-19-94-10 W4
165.66 FORT MACKAY, AB SW-19-94-10 W4
424 FORT MACKAY, AB HUSKY SUNRISE
424.5 FORT MACKAY, AB HUSKY SUNRISE
163.695 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SYNCRUDE
164.385 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SYNCRUDE
164.535 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SYNCRUDE
164.595 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SYNCRUDE
165.66 FT. MCMURRAY, AB TRIDON SYNCRUDE

Again, if you (or anyone else) can figure any of these out and submit them to the DB, it'll make things that much easier for the next guy who wanders into Newfoundland's 2nd largest city.

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Fort McMurray Steepbank:
936.425
936.675
936.925
937.175
937.6625
937.9125
938.2875
938.5375
938.9125
939.1625
939.5375
939.7875

Jay this is Cenovus , I know this for sure because I worked for them last winter on the Telephone Lake project which Is NE of steepbank (Cenovus) project. Our job was on the AB/SK border and Cenovus has purchased OSQ (Oil Sands Quest) on the sask side
I wish I could remember my RID ?? 226**** or 224**** ? I remember we would use LADD 3 up to KM 59 on the telephone lake road and then we went DIGITAL (same radio;;;; Press P3 Toggle L or R to Telephone lake/Steepbank then then ENTER ) , I remember I had a Motorola Radio but for the life of me cannot remember the model;

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well I have figured out the two nexen systems, one at long lake and one at kinosis. I'm going back again tomorrow for two weeks and ill try put it al together and submit the info. I haven't been able to find anything in the 700mhz as of yet but will keep searching. Our camp is about 25 kms south of Anzac on 881 and I haven't been able to receive anything other then those two nexen sites and the rcmp on a4 I think.
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So been looking for RCMP in Anzac area the only rptr I hear them or anyone on is a4 now not sure if its different up north but its referred to site 70 every time some switches to it. Dose anyone know their comms up there.
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EMS should be on the provincial Alberta Health Services system..

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Is the Provincial Alberta Health Services system up and running? In Calgary they are using the Calgary Digital system. In other places iden. So any word on the northeast part of Alberta/
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sell I have not found anything for the new system up here yet.
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Is this system separate from AFRRCS?
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None of AFRRCS is supposed to be live at this point. I think the "Alberta Provincial Health system" referred to was meant to be the provincial ambulance frequency (158.760).
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I found the info for the ambulance and fire dispatch. And some other stuff around Anzac. I will submit all the info I got when u get home Wednesday.
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