Trunking and conventional Freq same bank

[usnasa]

hello all I did a search but couldnt find the info that I needed, I have the pro 2055 programming with win 97 software my question is can i program trunk freq and conventional freq in the same bank and do I need to skip a space in between trunked and conventional freq.


thanks

[DELCOLHFC]

Yes you can program both trunked and conventional in the same bank, leaving an empty channel between them has been debated several times here in the past, not sure of the official resolution to the question but I always do leave one. It just makes it easier for me when I'm rooting around in WIN97 doing some editing or whatever.

[usnasa]

should you leave a space at the top of the bank as well ? thanks for your input

[DELCOLHFC]

I think that would only be needed for EDACS systems that have to start on channel XX1. I have systems starting on channels XX0 with no problems.

[usnasa]

ok thanks DELCOLHFC I will try to skip a space between my trunked and conventional freq

[cifd64]

On the Pro-2055 you do not need channel spacing. I recommend starting on the 0-channel with each system. I dont listen to EDACS, however and can not help you there.

[usnasa]

thanks for your help

[gmclam]

Originally Posted by usnasa

hello all I did a search but couldnt find the info that I needed, I have the pro 2055 programming with win 97 software my question is can i program trunk freq and conventional freq in the same bank

Yes you can. There are no real issues here, other than related to programming the trunked system.

and do I need to skip a space in between trunked and conventional freq.

No. The reason people put in a "space", is when there are more than a single trunked system in the same bank. But it is not actually a space, it must be a programmed unlocked frequency in AM, FM, CT or DC mode. And the second trunked system must be the same type as the first, and their talkgroups should not conflict.

The caveats here are releated to the trunked system you are programming. If it is MOtorola, there are no real issues - just program in control frequencies and set to MO. However other systems must be programmed into correct slots (logical channel numbers), and typically channel x00 is not used (although you can put a conventional frequency there).

[usnasa]

so your saying it motorola system doesnt matter if I put it on the top of the bank but should I start edacs systems on ch xx0 or xx1 and what do you mean by the talkgroups should not conflict.? thanks for your help

[bubbaearle]

Originally Posted by usnasa

so your saying it motorola system doesnt matter if I put it on the top of the bank but should I start edacs systems on ch xx0 or xx1 and what do you mean by the talkgroups should not conflict.? thanks for your help

EDACS systems should start on xx1

Motorola & LTR systems can start on xx0

If you run 2 trunk systems in the same bank they both must be the same type

Since you'll have talkgroups for both systems they can not share TGIDs (dec or hex). More than likely the first of duplicated TGIDs would be the one to display.....

For example - If ya had the.....
Local Fuzz MO TRS with 6 freqs in 000 - 005
006 set to FM and unlocked 0.0000MHz
Pizza Hut MO TRS with 6 freqs in 007 - 012

Fuzz Dispatch TGID - 1002
Pizza Hut Delivery TGID - 1002

Since the TGIDs are duplicated you'd hafta assume that the scanner would "see" and display the first one it saw.

So if the Pizza Hut sent a pie to your house it would look like the police just dispatched the pizza guy.

If Pizza Hut was first it'd sound like they were dispatching the cops!

Clear as mud?

All fun aside, I have a Pro 97 & 2055 programmed with 2 LTR systems in the same bank with no duplicate TGIDs and it works fine. I also have another bank with 2 MOTO systems and it works fine as well.

I hope GRE releases a non P25 version of the PSR500 to replace the PSR300/400 - Pro164/163...............20 scanlists, dynamic memory & V-folders would rock!!!

It's not delivery, it's Digiorno!

[usnasa]

Great thanks for your great answer but i do have a question about the port Auth system
Scanner Frequencies: Port Authority of New York and New Jersey Trunking System, New York, Multi-State

I was told to put them in four seperate banks which I did as far as the talk groups should I put the same talk groups for each bank as well i hope you understand what i mean i am using the win 97 software
thanks for all your help

[DELCOLHFC]

If the talkgroups are common on all or various sites then you would need to program them for each site. If certain TG's are only active on a single site then they only need to be loaded for that site. If in doubt put em on all 4 sites.

[usnasa]

thats what i did i put the same talk groups for all four banks thanks for all your help everybody