Control Channel on Win96

Chipster · #1 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 02:25 PM

I have been reading all the post I can find on programming the 2096 with Win96. I am programming a conventional frequency between everything. I am a little confused on one thing. For example, if a digital/trunk system has a total of 10 frequencies listed for a particular site/tower. 5 of them are listed in red as control channels. None as alternate frequencies. What are the remaining 5 frequencies? Are they considered alternates? Do I need to program all 10 frequencies? I want things like D.O.T., State, City, and County police and fire talkgroups. How do I know which of the 10 frequencies these are? I am currently programming all 10 frequencies just to be safe. I ran out of conventional frequencies as separators, so I am entering some twice.

Also, is there a way of printing out what is programmed in my scanner from Win96? I cant find a "print" function.

seamusg · #2 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chipster

I have been reading all the post I can find on programming the 2096 with Win96. I am programming a conventional frequency between everything. I am a little confused on one thing. For example, if a digital/trunk system has a total of 10 frequencies listed for a particular site/tower. 5 of them are listed in red as control channels. None as alternate frequencies. What are the remaining 5 frequencies? Are they considered alternates? Do I need to program all 10 frequencies? I want things like D.O.T., State, City, and County police and fire talkgroups. How do I know which of the 10 frequencies these are? I am currently programming all 10 frequencies just to be safe. I ran out of conventional frequencies as separators, so I am entering some twice.

Also, is there a way of printing out what is programmed in my scanner from Win96? I cant find a "print" function.

1. Which system are you trying to load that has 5 CC's?
2. The only way I know of to print out from win96 is to EXPORT it as a csv file and open that file as a spreedsheet.

Chipster · #3 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 05:28 PM

MECA-1 for Indianapolis

http://www.radioreference.com/module...=TRSDB&sid=322

THere is a little more than 10 listed there, but you get teh idea....

brucewarming · #4 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 05:49 PM

I only see four red highlighted CC for MECA 1
Looks like that systems is new and still being developed. And it's a anolog system.

seamusg · #5 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chipster

MECA-1 for Indianapolis

http://www.radioreference.com/module...=TRSDB&sid=322

THere is a little more than 10 listed there, but you get teh idea....

What state are you trying?????

fmon · #6 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 07:49 PM

There are only 4 CC's and only one will be active at a time. Program one CC after the other and ignore the rest of the black trunking frequencies. Program conventionals anywhere after the 4 CC's as desired.

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I want things like D.O.T., State, City, and County police and fire talkgroups. How do I know which of the 10 frequencies these are?

Do not confuse frequencies with Talkgroups The duty CC will assign an available frequency for the Talkgroup to communicate.

Chipster · #7 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 08:26 PM

So the computer assigns traffic to one of the four control channels. Whichever one happens to be open? Then, what is the purpose of the rest of the frequencies? Or, am I confusing the old trunking systems with the new digital systems?

hcsd35-32 · #8 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by seamusg

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Originally Posted by chipster

MECA-1 for Indianapolis

http://www.radioreference.com/modul...e=TRSDB&sid=322

THere is a little more than 10 listed there, but you get teh idea....

What state are you trying?????

Are there that many cities named Indianapolis that you have to ask what state? Not that the link to MECA would give it away either

fmon · #9 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 08:48 PM

Digital trunking works the same as "the old". The Active CC assigns a voice channel for the Talkgroup to communicate on. The "BLACK" frequencies in the link you provided are Voice Channels (VC's) and the three currently unused Red frequencies are also likely VC's.

BTW, your link is also an analog Motorola Type II Smartnet, not digital. Usually this type of system rotates the CC each day, mine does around midnight. Todays CC becomes available as a VC tomorrow when another Red takes the Control. The BLACKS stay as VC's every day.

A SmartZone works similar, except the towers are interlinked differently and each will likely have an active CC. This provides for mobile units to cross zones without dropping coms and usually they maintain the Talkgroup. These systems rarely have 4 CC's but may have up to three combined CC's and Alts. The Alts are rarely used as CC's but do serve as VC's when not on duty as CC.

seamusg · #10 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 08:58 PM

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Are there that many cities named Indianapolis that you have to ask what state? Not that the link to MECA would give it away either

I would like to know how someone in Grand Blanc ,MI can monitor IN.
This was posted under RADIO SHACK and not under a state, so if a different state show up all of a sudden wouldn't you question it?????

"Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Grand Blanc, MI"

Al42 · #11 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by seamusg

I would like to know how someone in Grand Blanc ,MI can monitor IN.

VERY big antenna.

seamusg · #12 (**permalink**) 11-14-2005, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Al42

VERY big antenna.

I know a lot of houses have 50ft TV towers in Grand Blanc, but I haven't seen any that big

Voyager · #13 (**permalink**) 11-15-2005, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Chipster

So the computer assigns traffic to one of the four control channels. Whichever one happens to be open? Then, what is the purpose of the rest of the frequencies? Or, am I confusing the old trunking systems with the new digital systems?

The other control channels are used so as not to place continual use on one transmitter, or in case one goes down.

Those frequencies not used as control channels are used as Voice channels. Those control channels not in active use as a control channel (there will only be one used as a control channel at any one time) are also used as voice channels. You don't need to program the voice only channels in - only those frequencies that could be used as control channels.

Joe M.

Voyager · #14 (**permalink**) 11-15-2005, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by seamusg

I would like to know how someone in Grand Blanc ,MI can monitor IN.

I usually monitor distant areas by going to those areas. Just because someone lives somewhere doesn't mean they don't travel.

Also, Grand Blanc is only about 80 miles from Indiana. I routinely monitor a TRS 60 miles from me with an antenna only 15 feet up, so this isn't as if he is trying to monitor MARCS from CA!

Joe M.

Chipster · #15 (**permalink**) 11-17-2005, 05:59 PM

Thank You. Only needing the main Control Channels saves a lot of space.

As far as how can I monitor Indiana from Grand Blanc. Well, I don’t. I drive to Indiana just to hear them…..

I moonlight with a local trucking company here and make a run to Indy at least twice a week. I also run other places in Michigan and once in a while go to Moraine Ohio.