Filtering Encrypted traffic

[shrek06]

Is there such a way to filter encrypted traffic? We have one officer that likes to encrypt his traffic. We know who it is, but I would like to filter him (and others that do it) so it isn't so annoying.

Thanks,

Mark

[Spitfire8520]

Looking at your posting history, it appears that you have a Pro-106. It does not have the feature to mute encrypted audio (there's a very limited exception to this). You would need a PSR-800 or BCD396XT/BCD996XT to have an ability to mute the audio.

[shrek06]

Originally Posted by Spitfire8520

Looking at your posting history, it appears that you have a Pro-106. It does not have the feature to mute encrypted audio (there's a very limited exception to this). You would need a PSR-800 or BCD396XT/BCD996XT to have an ability to mute the audio.

Thank you.... I shall research and buy my next toy.

[wtp]

i have the old 396t and the next county has digital when they encrypt all i see for a second is ENC and it goes on its way

[kf4sek]

Could you not save the Radio's ID as a private talkgroup and then lock out that private talkgroup, thus causing the scanner to skip all transmission by his RID? I have never tried this. However, if you can alpha tag RIDs saved as private talkgroups, you should be able to lock them out also, correct? I will test this theory and get back to you with my results.

[gewecke]

Indeed, save the encrypted talkgroup as private, program in a list as private then lock it out. This DOES work with the pro-106 and 197.

73,
n9zas

[Spitfire8520]

Originally Posted by kf4sek

Could you not save the Radio's ID as a private talkgroup and then lock out that private talkgroup, thus causing the scanner to skip all transmission by his RID? I have never tried this. However, if you can alpha tag RIDs saved as private talkgroups, you should be able to lock them out also, correct? I will test this theory and get back to you with my results.

I was thinking about this exact point as I was writing up my reply, but a quick search on the forums indicated that locking a certain RID out doesn't function that way. OP could definitely try it and report back to whether or not this idea would work.

Originally Posted by gewecke

Indeed, save the encrypted talkgroup as private, program in a list as private then lock it out. This DOES work with the pro-106 and 197.

73,
n9zas

I believe that OP is referring to a single user on the system who likes his encryption option a little more than the rest of his coworkers.

[shrek06]

Correct... TGRP 2340 has about 20 PD officers in this small town, with ONE that likes to be annoying with his encryption.

I guess before I sell my pro-106.. is there a reason why I shouldn't sell it and get the BC radio?

Originally Posted by Spitfire8520

I was thinking about this exact point as I was writing up my reply, but a quick search on the forums indicated that locking a certain RID out doesn't function that way. OP could definitely try it and report back to whether or not this idea would work.



I believe that OP is referring to a single user on the system who likes his encryption option a little more than the rest of his coworkers.

[asurnin]

I know my PRO106 misses radioIDs sometimes when it tunes into the talkgroup after the initial channel grant. So while that's about your only opinion, it may not always save you either.

Someone mentioned that there is an exception to 106 not muting enc. what is it?

[Spitfire8520]

Originally Posted by asurnin

Someone mentioned that there is an exception to 106 not muting enc. what is it?

Technical wise, a 3600 baud CC that has a specific packet of data that indicates whether or not the traffic is encrypted. That's about the only exception I've heard of, it won't mute encrypted conventional or new P25 systems. Someone should correct me if I'm completely wrong here.

Originally Posted by shrek06

I guess before I sell my pro-106.. is there a reason why I shouldn't sell it and get the BC radio?

The Pro-106 is a great radio in itself, it's just very unfortunate that a single Officer likes to mess with those who want to monitor. The BCD can monitor the same systems the Pro-106 can, and if money is an issue for you, you may want to consider holding off on buying a new scanner as technology could go anywhere in a few years. If your area were to unfortunately switch to a P25 Phase II system, then the BCD would become a brick as you won't be able to hear anyone at that point. You may want to poke around the Kansas forums to see if anyone knows of any plans to upgrade.

If you end up wanting to get rid of your Pro-106, consider trying the classifieds on these forums, that way the radio will find itself a good home.

[Redneck0410]

Originally Posted by shrek06

Correct... TGRP 2340 has about 20 PD officers in this small town, with ONE that likes to be annoying with his encryption.

I guess before I sell my pro-106.. is there a reason why I shouldn't sell it and get the BC radio?

Mark, if you're interested in selling it, hit me up, I'm looking for a digital to add to my collection. I've got a couple analog ones that would work pretty good for the Wichita system.

[gr8rcall]

I believe that OP is referring to a single user on the system who likes his encryption option a little more than the rest of his coworkers.

In that case, I think you can get his RID, program it as a private ID, and Lock it Out. Right?

EDIT:
I see that this was already mentioned....

[RoninJoliet]

That technique of labeling the TG-private and L/O only works in "scanning" scanlists, when im sitting on a "Wildcard" on my RS106/197 i still receive all the "ENC" sounding TG's.....?