Pro-106 No Audio on Talkgroups/Trunking

[soberbyker]

Originally Posted by jfhtm350

Ok that explains it then. I searched for a 800mhz reband deadline and couldnt find anything so not sure when it is or was. Evidently it is still in the future sometime.

As for the Buck Co system, do the same thing for it. Go through those 500mhz frequencies in the RR database until you find the CC and write it down and make sure it is the frequency listed in the database. You may be able to try the listed CC and AC first, which may be quicker. You may also be able to type in the voice channels and hear someone talk every now and then with no response. But make sure the CC is the same one you have programmed in.

Here's a thread started this past October and is kept updated with new info about Philly's new system:

Philly 800mhz System Status

[rjm022222]

Originally Posted by soberbyker

I still hear Philly just fine. I downloaded the system via WIN500 using the RR database.

Philly is bringing a new system online slowly but the old one they have had for years is still up and running.

WIN500 sees the RR database like this, under "system" Philadelphia county there is

"Philadelphia" this is the old/current system

"Philadelphia (Project 25)" this will be the new system which eventually could be a TDMA modulation system. If/when that happens most scanners will not be able to monitor it, currently only a PSR800 could.

I have a RS Pro-197, which is the desktop/Mobile version of your Pro 106

I just downloaded then uploaded from WIN 500. Same result. It stops on channels but no audio. I just hear low static. I have no idea what's wrong. Soon I'm going to drown this thing in the bath tub.

[soberbyker]

Originally Posted by rjm022222

I just downloaded then uploaded from WIN 500. Same result. It stops on channels but no audio. I just hear low static. I have no idea what's wrong. Soon I'm going to drown this thing in the bath tub.

Do you see any district numbers on the screen when it stops?

You downloaded the plain "Philadelphia" system correct?

[rjm022222]

Originally Posted by soberbyker

Do you see any district numbers on the screen when it stops?

You downloaded the plain "Philadelphia" system correct?

Yes the plain system. And yes I do see the district numbers. Still no audio. Just a low static comes out of speaker when they are broadcasting.

[soberbyker]

I wish I could help you, because the answer might help me as well with the Lower Merion PD. LM just went through narrowbanding and I can no longer hear them on the trunked system. If I put their frequencies in as CONV frequencies I can hear one sided conversations but nothing at all for the trunked which others claim to hear. Before the switch I heard them just fine.

[rjm022222]

Originally Posted by soberbyker

I wish I could help you, because the answer might help me as well with the Lower Merion PD. LM just went through narrowbanding and I can no longer hear them on the trunked system. If I put their frequencies in as CONV frequencies I can hear one sided conversations but nothing at all for the trunked which others claim to hear. Before the switch I heard them just fine.

Thank You for your responses I appreciate it.

[Spitfire8520]

Originally Posted by soberbyker

I wish I could help you, because the answer might help me as well with the Lower Merion PD. LM just went through narrowbanding and I can no longer hear them on the trunked system. If I put their frequencies in as CONV frequencies I can hear one sided conversations but nothing at all for the trunked which others claim to hear. Before the switch I heard them just fine.

I don't think a solution for his problem would fix your problem as narrowbanding doesn't have any relationship to an 800 MHz system. Have you tried to enable Narrow FM: under the Expert Menu for the TSYS?

Also apologies to the OP for not being able to answer your problem. Besides recommending double checking if you can hear the control channel, I don't have much more to offer for your situation. It sort of sounds like a hardware failure of being able to decode the control channel, but I don't have experience to know if that is the case.

[soberbyker]

Originally Posted by Spitfire8520

I don't think a solution for his problem would fix your problem as narrowbanding doesn't have any relationship to an 800 MHz system. Have you tried to enable Narrow FM: under the Expert Menu for the TSYS?

Also apologies to the OP for not being able to answer your problem. Besides recommending double checking if you can hear the control channel, I don't have much more to offer for your situation. It sort of sounds like a hardware failure of being able to decode the control channel, but I don't have experience to know if that is the case.

I do realize that, I was just expressing my frustration with a similar problem, no longer hearing a system I used to be able to hear.

Why is Lower Merion silent?

[rjm022222]

The situation seems very strange to me. Conventional/analog channels come in just fine. I don't know what the solution is. I just don't know what to do. Thanks to all who replied.

[Ensnared]

Originally Posted by jfhtm350

Ok that explains it then. I searched for a 800mhz reband deadline and couldnt find anything so not sure when it is or was. Evidently it is still in the future sometime.

As for the Buck Co system, do the same thing for it. Go through those 500mhz frequencies in the RR database until you find the CC and write it down and make sure it is the frequency listed in the database. You may be able to try the listed CC and AC first, which may be quicker. You may also be able to type in the voice channels and hear someone talk every now and then with no response. But make sure the CC is the same one you have programmed in.

I experienced a similar issue in Oklahoma. After programming the OKWIN trunking system into my PSR 500, I observed the talk group without any audio. Since I'd already monitored Tulsa without problems, I opened up Win500 & found the problem. The "trunking table" was incorrect. After I changed it to "default" it worked fine. Also, for local trunking systems I've loaded all of the operating frequencies & set the radio to show CC's during transmissions. Sometimes, this helps identify CC's or AC's.

I don't know if this will work for you, but you might experiment with the trunking tables. It is just a suggestion.

[jfhtm350]

You will probably wont to tune your scanner to one of the voice channels listed and leave it parked there for a little while and see if you can hear anyone talking, signal strength, talkgroup id and such. Then tune to another voice channel and do the same thing. If you hear them on there fine then they are still there and then you will know your problem lies within the programming of the system somewhere. If you say the control channel is correct then its probably your trunking tables. There are a few default options you can try. They are standard, splinter, and rebanded and also you can create a custom one.
I dont think you have a bad scanner so dont send him to davy jones locker yet.

[soberbyker]

Originally Posted by rjm022222

Yes the plain system. And yes I do see the district numbers. Still no audio. Just a low static comes out of speaker when they are broadcasting.

Just read in another thread Philly is going to switch over to the new system tomorrow morning. I'd wait to toss your scanner out the window for another day or two and see if you're able to pick them up after the switch.

Philly 800mhz System Status

[rjm022222]

Originally Posted by soberbyker

Just read in another thread Philly is going to switch over to the new system tomorrow morning. I'd wait to toss your scanner out the window for another day or two and see if you're able to pick them up after the switch.

Philly 800mhz System Status

Thanks for the heads up. I'll download the Project 25 and see what happens tomorrow.

[soberbyker]

Originally Posted by rjm022222

Thanks for the heads up. I'll download the Project 25 and see what happens tomorrow.

Just keep in mind, this new system is capable of TDMA modulation and they will more than likely go that route in the future. What that means when they actively start using TDMA we will no longer be able to hear them, unless we have a GRE PSR-800 scanner, currently the only scanner on the market with the hardware to handle TDMA.

Philadelphia (Project 25) Trunking System, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - Scanner Frequencies

[rjm022222]

Originally Posted by soberbyker

Just keep in mind, this new system is capable of TDMA modulation and they will more than likely go that route in the future. What that means when they actively start using TDMA we will no longer be able to hear them, unless we have a GRE PSR-800 scanner, currently the only scanner on the market with the hardware to handle TDMA.

Philadelphia (Project 25) Trunking System, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania - Scanner Frequencies

I was reading that on RR website. When they do that I'll have to get a new scanner.

[rjm022222]

This scanner is unreal. I downloaded Philly PD from Win500 instead of the Radio Shack Program. I also auto created the Wildcard for Philly MOT 800/900. It just stared working. I have no idea why, but I'm glad it's working. I'm picking up traffic on the Wildcard as well. Thanks for all the help/replies. Bob

[soberbyker]

Originally Posted by rjm022222

This scanner is unreal. I downloaded Philly PD from Win500 instead of the Radio Shack Program. I also auto created the Wildcard for Philly MOT 800/900. It just stared working. I have no idea why, but I'm glad it's working. I'm picking up traffic on the Wildcard as well. Thanks for all the help/replies. Bob

Download the entire 800/900 system, I was wrong about the PD moving to the new system, it was just municipal services that moved today, for now anyway. PD is still using the 800/900 system.

[rjm022222]

I only did Philly PD for now, just to see if I could get it working and just started working. I have no idea why, but hey it works so who I am I question it.

[jfhtm350]

Originally Posted by rjm022222

This scanner is unreal. I downloaded Philly PD from Win500 instead of the Radio Shack Program. I also auto created the Wildcard for Philly MOT 800/900. It just stared working. I have no idea why, but I'm glad it's working. I'm picking up traffic on the Wildcard as well. Thanks for all the help/replies. Bob

Radio Shack program? Are you talking about ARC500?

[rjm022222]

Originally Posted by jfhtm350

Radio Shack program? Are you talking about ARC500?

Yes ARC500