pro106 trunking system disappeard

reconrider8 · #1 (**permalink**) 02-27-2013, 2:07 PM

I went and i cut my pro106 on the other day and i started looking and noticed that my whole first bank was gone.

N1BHH · #2 (**permalink**) 02-27-2013, 7:25 PM

There are no banks, there are scan lists, just hit the number 1 and it should be activated.

reconrider8 · #3 (**permalink**) 02-27-2013, 10:14 PM

thats what i ment was scan lists and its gone now

rk911 · #4 (**permalink**) 02-28-2013, 8:09 AM

had you recently uploaded new data to the scanner? anytime you upload it replaces what was in the scanner. so let's say you had data in scan list 1 and you wanted to add data to scan list 2. if you just upload the data for SL 2 all of the data in SL 1 will be erased. when adding data you also need to re-upload all of the existing data as well.

KC0CSE · #5 (**permalink**) 02-28-2013, 6:13 PM

no same problem here...scan list 9 some times goes away for me...no other scan list just "9"....I have to download the info back in each time...don't know why this happens....if the scanner is off just one day this some times happen.. no problem with the PRO 197...JUST THE 106...

reconrider8 · #6 (**permalink**) 03-01-2013, 7:08 AM

yea thats what mine did it had been in there for weeks now and just cut it on that one time and it was gone

KC0CSE · #7 (**permalink**) 03-01-2013, 7:14 AM

All the other lists are there!...why did list "9" go away?....maybe I will move it to another list and see what happens...

reconrider8 · #8 (**permalink**) 03-01-2013, 7:29 AM

idk its done it before on #1 for me to

Ensnared · #9 (**permalink**) 03-01-2013, 7:53 PM

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Originally Posted by KC0CSE

All the other lists are there!...why did list "9" go away?....maybe I will move it to another list and see what happens...

One of the most helpful things I have in Win500 software is "all objects." Sometimes, I make mistakes programming things, particularly when it involves more than 5 V folders. I fatigue & make mistakes.

One of the biggest mistakes I tend to make, when I'm compromised, is not assigning objects to a scan list. When you migrate to "all objects", you can see if there is anything unassigned to a scan list. Of course, I am excluding "TSYS" because they don't have a scan list, per se.

So, if you happen to have Win500, this might help find whether you've misplaced something.

Good luck.

KC0CSE · #10 (**permalink**) 03-01-2013, 8:05 PM

I will do that!!

Ensnared · #11 (**permalink**) 03-02-2013, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KC0CSE

I will do that!!

If I counted on manual programming for this, I would have never ever found the unattached information. After fixing the problem in question, the heap error went away. Well, that is the best I can recall from that point in time, several years ago. At least it gives you a view of the mapping.

When I program, I always program everything to scan list "1" After things are downloaded into Win500, I go back & add additional scan lists. So, if I'm ever on the road and notice the absence of programmed material in my scan lists, I default to scan list 1. It is not optimal, but it gives me a chance to listen & the fix the problem later.

reconrider8 · #12 (**permalink**) 03-04-2013, 5:54 AM

everything was there one day though. scanning the trunking system one day then the next day it was gone lol

N1BHH · #13 (**permalink**) 03-04-2013, 6:29 AM

You need to construct a complete file and upload it all at once. You can't load one scan list, then another, then another, it must be done all at once. Each time you program the scanner it overwrites everything that's in there. Make one file with everything in it you want to scan then save it and upload it. I don't know what programming software you are using, you haven't mentioned which, but make sure that you have the scan lists enabled and that every object is assigned to a scan list.

Ensnared · #14 (**permalink**) 03-04-2013, 1:16 PM

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Originally Posted by N1BHH

You need to construct a complete file and upload it all at once. You can't load one scan list, then another, then another, it must be done all at once. Each time you program the scanner it overwrites everything that's in there. Make one file with everything in it you want to scan then save it and upload it. I don't know what programming software you are using, you haven't mentioned which, but make sure that you have the scan lists enabled and that every object is assigned to a scan list.

I would agree with this, but I take a departure from such when I program. However, before I close the file, I always go to "save as" and put it into the saved Win500 files. If I want to add or subtract radio systems from this, I can do so. Often, when programming a large area such as Houston, Texas, I will periodically activate, "save as" to keep from losing the information.

There have been times I worked for hours while not paying attention to the time to have Win500 crash. It is rare, but it has surely happened. After a bout of profanity, I go back and start over.

When I am satisfied with the program, I load it into a V-folder and label it.

Hence, I don't download everything at once. But, generally, I do download the entire system when programming a trunking system. Programming statewide systems like Colorado is quite tiring, I must admit. But, it has to be done due to system upgrades that can occur.

reconrider8 · #15 (**permalink**) 03-04-2013, 1:25 PM

i know you cant upload multiple files you have to upload them all at once like i said i had it all working then the next day scan list 1 was gone

reconrider8 · #16 (**permalink**) 03-16-2013, 3:04 PM

Well its still showing up when you go into man and go over to scan list 1 but when you just have scan lust 1 enabled then it says nothing enabled :/

N1BHH · #17 (**permalink**) 03-17-2013, 5:36 PM

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Originally Posted by reconrider8

Well its still showing up when you go into man and go over to scan list 1 but when you just have scan lust 1 enabled then it says nothing enabled :/

You haven't elaborated what system, frequencies, etc. that you are programming. You haven't mentioned that you have any of your talk groups assigned to scan lists, therefor it's really difficult when your responses aren't very well posed. You have to look at the file, assign objects to the various scan lists and this won't happen. What program are you using? Win500? Post your file here and let us see what you have and what you missed.

Ronaldski · #18 (**permalink**) 03-17-2013, 6:19 PM

Just a possibility, hope its not, but its not unusual the eprom chip can fail and lose their info. EPROMs have so many read-write cycles and some can lose programmed info earlier than others.

reconrider8 · #19 (**permalink**) 03-18-2013, 6:12 AM

im not sure i hope its not something major lol but if it is it is i have the win 500 file saved on here but i just wanted to kind of figure out why it did it http://www.filedropper.com/pro-106rebuild that should be my win 5 file

JoeyC · #20 (**permalink**) 03-18-2013, 1:56 PM

What is your definition of "gone"? When you toggle the "1" key does the list enable and disable? Does "gone" mean that you cant pick anything up on the list? I looked at your file and you appear to have a couple of sites on the NC VIPER in list one in a ROAM configuration. I don't know about everyone else, but in MY area and for the systems I monitor I cannot rely on ROAM providing surefire results with the way trunking systems are set up with affiliations etc YMMV but I wouldn't use it.