State Highway Patroman killed chasing a speeder

[bee]

trace1, I didn't "bash the cop", he bashed "himself"! (Thanks BoxAlarm)

[bee]

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[BoxAlarm187]

Originally Posted by bee

I didn't "bash the cop", he bashed himself"

Yes, you did. Over and over.

And using the death of a law enforcement officer to make a pun is perhaps the most tasteless thing I've read in a long time.

[AEMTKieran]

Bee has some definite issue with law enforcement. As I said in another thread, I hope he has better words when some unknowing cop saves bee's azz from the frying pan some day. But then again, it never happens to people that hate cops, does it?

[bee]

I have not stated anywhere, that "I hate cops."

As I have stated before, "Sometimes LEO'S make bad decisions, and the results are INJURY or DEATH!"!

If you missed it, I will repeat it agin. "If the Patrolman had stopped chasing the "speeder", (which he should have) he would most likley, be ALIVE today!

Had the patrolman "stopped the chase", the Patrolman would have slowed down, the speeder would have slowed down, and the speeder would have been idenified and arrested, the next day. Which he was!

[trace1]

I cordially invite you to ask your question here PoliceLink : The Nation's Law Enforcement Community. I'm sure that there will be many fine upstanding LEO's that would be more than happy to give personal insight to your query.

[bee]

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[MaxMan1986]

Originally Posted by bee

"high school principle"

rofl!

[trace1]

Originally Posted by bee

The Patrolman's brother (that was killed) is the "High School Principle" here. The "High School" is about a mile from where I live, and from where I graduated. Although he wasn't employed there, when I graduated

And just what has this got to do with your original question?

[bee]

Nothing! I deleted it!

[BoxAlarm187]

Originally Posted by bee

Had the patrolman "stopped the chase", the Patrolman would have slowed down, the speeder would have slowed down, and the speeder would have been idenified and arrested, the next day. Which he was!

Why would the speeder have slowed down if the Trooper stopped the pursuit? He was already traveling 100+ MPH before the pursuit, what leads you to believe that he would have slowed down after he potentially recognized that the trooper had terminated?

Also, had the witnesses not come forward, would the violator had been found and probable cause for arrest been proven? Remember, there has to be evidence of who was actually driving the vehicle in order to make the arrest. You could loan YOUR car to someone and have them get into a pursuit - do you want the Highway Patrol showing up at your door and placing you under arrest?

You're convinced that MSG Hood was in the wrong, and there's nothing that any of us are going to say to change your mind. Good luck in your future interaction with MS law enforcement....

[Stick0413]

Originally Posted by bee

If the Patrolman would have called "off the chase",(which I think he should have), he most likely, would be alive today!

And if he decided not to go to a domestic he may have not been shot by some idiot... By taking a job as an LEO you know the risks you are taking and choose to do so.

[commstar]

Originally Posted by bee

If the Patrolman would have called "off the chase",(which I think he should have), he most likely, would be alive today!

Did I miss the part where a steel beam was connected the rear bumper of the suspect vehicle and front bumper of the Officers patrol car? Kindergarten rule: when a policeman tells you to do something, just do it, I mean really how simple.

And if that speeder had crashed and killed a third party after the cop shut down his chase then folks would be accusing him of not doing his job. No-win.

Whats the point of this type of second guessing? I say, learn but don't second guess.

He gave his life doing his job to the best of his ability- right, wrong, or indifferent on his decisions- he is gone. Mourn the loss, learn from it and move on. Leave the blame for the lawyers.

From personal experience: stuff happens mighty fast at 100mph in a chase, I was not there and am also missing the entire context of the situation, his training, department policy, supervisors demands, and what he was thinking. One tiny fact or circumstance that we do not now or may never know may change the entire complexion of the discussion- its really funny how that tends to happen.

I think we should be minimally grateful that people are willing to place themselves in these situations to protect society as a whole- even those who would second guess them in death.

[bee]

From the Daily Journal(www.djournal.com). Below, are parts of the article. Page 8A, 6-7-09.

Since highway Patrol Master Sgt Steve Hood's fatal accident during a high speed chase on May 30th, police pursuit polices have become a hot topic.

There have been questions about weather or not Hood's chase was worth pursuing.

When danger to the officer and public are more pervalent than pursuing the suspect, then an officer should call it off.

About 300 people a year die in police pursuits, including officers, suspects and innocent victims, according to Pursuits Watch. Pursuit Watch is a nationwide nonprofit association of citizens and and police officers with acommon goal of safer and smarter police pursuits polices.

According to Pursuit Watch. "officers should not pursue a suspect unless they are involved in a violent crime. Its not worth the rick to the public's health or the officer's.

"Just because the bad guy gets out of sight, doesn't mean police won't catch the bad guy. Police have tools to catch the culptits at a later date". According to Pursuit Watch.

Messages left with the Mississippi Highway Patrol by the Daily Journal regarding their polices were not returned.

[bee]

BoxAlarm, you state "you are convinced MSG Hood was in the wrong". Well if he wasn't wrong, he made a really "bad decision"!

[mancow]

Then please enlighten us since you obviously have it all figured out.

[bee]

Oh, I see now, mancow! You have 2,391 posts, and wanted to add, one more!

[N_Jay]

Originally Posted by bee

Oh, I see now, mancow! You have 2,391 posts, and wanted to add, one more!

Why is it some people love to post about others post counts. (and hence generate a post with ZERO value to the thread)

I find that most (and certainly most with high post counts) don't care about post counts at all.

Personally, I wish they weer not listed.

[mancow]

No, it's just the arrogance of accusing someone of making a wrong decision when you and I and everyone else on here no idea what really happened. Maybe the guy did make a wrong decision, maybe he didn't but it's the arrogance of those that sit around with the luxury of error free hind sight while judging the actions of those that have to make the tough decisions that becomes sickening at times.


BTW, it's the tavern and post counts aren't incremented here.

Originally Posted by bee

Oh, I see now, mancow! You have 2,391 posts, and wanted to add, one more!

[trace1]

Originally Posted by bee

Oh, I see now, mancow! You have 2,391 posts, and wanted to add, one more!

And just what does someone's post count have to do with your question?

It would seem that you're quite adept at side-stepping the issues...

Have you asked a lawyer yet about the issue you brought up in this post?

Have you posted your question(s) or concerns about this issue on the other web-site I provided the link to?

And if the article you cited is legitimate then "they" certainly have some issues with proper grammar and spelling...

But then again this is "backwoods" Mississippi, right?

Yep, that was a generalized statement. Kind of like you've sort of made about Law Enforcement Officers, right?

Turnabout is fair play...