RadioReference on Facebook   RadioReference on Twitter   RadioReference Blog
 

Go Back   The RadioReference.com Forums > U.S. Regional Radio Discussion Forums > California Radio Discussion Forum > Sacramento Valley Area Discussion

Sacramento Valley Area Discussion Local area specific discussion for Sacramento County and its outlying areas such as San Joaquin and Stanislaus Counties.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #41 (permalink)  
Old 12-11-2010, 1:23 PM
Member
   
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 297
Default

Heard a request for officers who didn't yet have a rebanded radio to "respond to the command post to pick up a new radio". This was on SP 2, the tactical channel for the Santa Claus Parade.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #42 (permalink)  
Old 12-24-2010, 1:51 PM
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Sacramento
Posts: 6
Default

My MTS2000 was flashed but won't pick up Roseville even though it is on one of my zones. The tech told me my handheld is getting replaced because of the rebanding but no P25.
Reply With Quote
  #43 (permalink)  
Old 02-10-2011, 7:32 PM
Member
   
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Marin County, CA
Posts: 327
Default Rebanded Frequencies

I've updated the frequency list posted by avtarsingh to include a few corrections, to distinguish between trunked and secondary channels, and to identify mutual aid channels by name:

Sacramento City

851.0500
851.1125
851.3250
851.3875
851.6250
851.6750
851.7500
851.8250
852.1000
852.3000
852.4625
852.5750
852.6375
852.7125
852.7375
852.9000
852.9625
853.1000
853.1625
853.6125
853.7125
853.7750
853.9000
853.9625

Sacramento County

851.1625
851.2625
851.4375
851.4625
851.6000
851.6500
851.8000
851.8500
852.0750
852.1500
852.1750
852.2500
852.3500
852.4000
852.6875
852.8750
853.1875
853.2625
853.3250
853.4250
853.4500
853.6875
853.8000
853.8500
853.8750
851.1375 Secondary
851.4125 Secondary
851.7750 Secondary
851.8875 Secondary
852.0375 Secondary
853.3625 Secondary
853.5625 Secondary
852.3250 Sac Metro FD
852.8000 Sac Metro FD

City of Davis

852.2750
852.6625
853.0750
853.6375

UC Davis

851.0750
851.4875
851.9875
852.4875
852.9875
853.2375
853.4875
851.2250 Secondary
851.2875 Secondary

Interoperability

851.0125 8CALL90
851.5125 8TAC91
852.0125 8TAC92
852.5125 8TAC93
853.0125 8TAC94
853.5125 CALAW8
851.2000 CALAW9
853.9875 CAFIRE1
851.9125 CAFIRE2
851.5375 CMARS1
852.5375 CMARS2
853.3875 CMARS3
Reply With Quote
  #44 (permalink)  
Old 02-10-2011, 11:20 PM
antfreq's Avatar
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Sacramento,California,USA
Posts: 1,379
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kd6fvx View Post
My MTS2000 was flashed but won't pick up Roseville even though it is on one of my zones. The tech told me my handheld is getting replaced because of the rebanding but no P25.
All of the MTS2000's that I have used AFTER the flash will pick up Roseville, but you have to be pretty close to Roseville's network. Barely get it downtown
Reply With Quote
  #45 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2011, 11:38 AM
Member
   
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Livermore, Ca
Posts: 491
Default re: sac reband

So when do I need to reprogram my scanner from the old frequencies to the new rebanded ones? Looks like it's still working the old way?
__________________
Thanks,
Ben
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #46 (permalink)  
Old 02-11-2011, 1:53 PM
Member
   
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Marin County, CA
Posts: 327
Default

Correct, they are still using the old frequencies. They should switch to the new rebanded frequencies sometime in the next few months (supposedly by May 2011). You'll know when your scanner suddenly stops receiving the system. Then you'll have to reprogram it with the new frequencies and a custom band plan available here:

EditBandPlan < UnidenMan4 < TWiki
Reply With Quote
  #47 (permalink)  
Old 02-14-2011, 12:10 PM
Member
  Audio Feed Provider
Audio Feed Provider
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sacramento (Natomas), CA, USA
Posts: 15
Default

I apologize in advance for what may come across as a total "noob" question, but I think I may not be the only one wondering this...

I currently have two Radio Shack PRO-528 units -- one that I carry on occasion and another that is constantly connected to a PC at the house (it is the source of my "Sacramento City Police - North Command" feed).

Based on mlangeveld's post above, they're apparently running in parallel right now -- yes?

According to the Radio Shack PRO-528 Wiki, my scanners do not support Motorola Rebanding -- yet the Rebanding page does not have my scanner on its admittedly partial "Which Scanners Stop Working" list. Must I replace my scanners? If so, what are my options? If you have specific recommendations of makes and models, I would appreciate having them.

Thanks in advance for helping to solve my ignorance problem.

Last edited by sharward; 02-14-2011 at 12:24 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #48 (permalink)  
Old 02-14-2011, 1:29 PM
Member
   
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Marin County, CA
Posts: 327
Default

I don't think they are running parallel systems yet. The new frequencies don't usually go online until closer to the switchover.

As you said, the rebanding page does not list all non-compatible scanners, so I would trust the wiki page for the PRO-528 (which states that it does not support rebanding). The Radio Shack Scanners page lists all of their scanners and whether or not they are compatible with rebanded systems:

Radio Shack Scanners - The RadioReference Wiki
Reply With Quote
  #49 (permalink)  
Old 03-08-2011, 7:14 PM
Member
   
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Marin County, CA
Posts: 327
Default West Sacramento 800 MHz Down

At 1427 hrs, West Sac Engine 42 came up on Green Fire and reported that their 800 MHz radios were down until further notice. Does anyone have an update on the SRRCS rebanding status?
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #50 (permalink)  
Old 03-18-2011, 8:35 PM
gmclam's Avatar
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Fair Oaks, CA
Posts: 4,947
Question Sacramento Regional Radio Communication System

If I understand this correctly; both the Sacramento County and Sacramento City systems are presently simulcasting on their "old" frequencies AND their rebanded frequencies.

What I would like to know is if there are any negative aspects if I were to only monitor the new rebanded frequencies. Are ALL of the TGs simulcast on both systems (not talking about county vs city, I am talking about legacy trunked freqs vs new rebanded trunked freqs)?

Thanks in advance.
__________________
PRO-95 | PRO-10 | PRO-97 | PRO-77 | PRO-92 | PSR-300 | PSR-310
Reply With Quote
  #51 (permalink)  
Old 03-18-2011, 9:26 PM
Member
   
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Marin County, CA
Posts: 327
Default

Just to clarify, the frequencies I posted are what the rebanded frequencies WILL be, but they are not online yet.

Last edited by mlangeveld; 03-18-2011 at 10:50 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #52 (permalink)  
Old 03-18-2011, 9:48 PM
WayneH's Avatar
Moderator
  RadioReference Database Admininstrator
Database Admin
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sitting in an airport somewhere
Posts: 8,413
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by gmclam View Post
If I understand this correctly; both the Sacramento County and Sacramento City systems are presently simulcasting on their "old" frequencies AND their rebanded frequencies
No, that's not correct. When the system rebands it will be a full transition to the 850s. It's one or the other, not both. The new rebanded freqs use the old 866 hardware. Simulcasting in the fashion you state is not technically smart or financially possible.
__________________
-Wayne
PM's are permitted by contact list only. Please use direct email: wayne_h at radioreference dot com
Got an admin question? -> Forum Rules & Guidelines
Please follow the forum rules and contact a moderator directly, not via a thread.

Last edited by WayneH; 03-21-2011 at 10:45 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #53 (permalink)  
Old 03-18-2011, 10:43 PM
Member
   
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Marin County, CA
Posts: 327
Default

When the switchover occurs, the new control channels will be turned on and the old control channels will be turned off. Having two control channels running at the same time would cause problems for subscriber radios.

Last edited by mlangeveld; 03-18-2011 at 10:52 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #54 (permalink)  
Old 03-21-2011, 10:50 PM
WayneH's Avatar
Moderator
  RadioReference Database Admininstrator
Database Admin
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Sitting in an airport somewhere
Posts: 8,413
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mlangeveld View Post
the new control channels will be turned on and the old control channels will be turned off.
Actually, if it's done in one night the channels designated for control (and not used as such) will be reprogrammed and then the old one disabled and then reprogrammed. There's not necessarily a "switch" that's turned on or off. That's the simple way to explain it.

Some systems will do it progressively (Alameda County for example) and some can do it all in one night.
__________________
-Wayne
PM's are permitted by contact list only. Please use direct email: wayne_h at radioreference dot com
Got an admin question? -> Forum Rules & Guidelines
Please follow the forum rules and contact a moderator directly, not via a thread.
Reply With Quote
  #55 (permalink)  
Old 04-14-2011, 12:44 AM
Member
  Audio Feed Provider
Audio Feed Provider
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sacramento (Natomas), CA, USA
Posts: 15
Default

I had opportunity to visit SacPD's comm center last weekend. I learned from one of their shift supervisors that they plan to cut over to the new frequencies sometime this coming weekend.

My feed will probably go down for a few days until I get my new rebanding-compatible scanner up and running next week. I just bought two "like new" PRO-107s on eBay and there are six more left as of this moment...
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #56 (permalink)  
Old 04-14-2011, 3:22 PM
Member
   
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: reno nv
Posts: 302
Default

oh. did he say anything more?
Reply With Quote
  #57 (permalink)  
Old 04-14-2011, 3:51 PM
Member
  Audio Feed Provider
Audio Feed Provider
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sacramento (Natomas), CA, USA
Posts: 15
Default

He said something about they finished work on the motorcycles and only had a few dozen other radios to do, so his answer to my "when" question was "in a week." He also talked a little about P25 but with no timeframe estimates, just "eventually down the road" stuff.

I also asked about the general feeling among management and rank-and-file about attitudes about rebroadcasting traffic via RadioReference.com feeds, and the sense I got is that it's no big deal. I hesitate to say that's absolute as his perception may not be 100% spot-on, but it's what he said.
Reply With Quote
  #58 (permalink)  
Old 04-14-2011, 4:36 PM
Member
   
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: reno nv
Posts: 302
Default

ok cool. thanks. good looking out for us.,
Reply With Quote
  #59 (permalink)  
Old 04-17-2011, 3:11 AM
Member
  Audio Feed Provider
Audio Feed Provider
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Sacramento (Natomas), CA, USA
Posts: 15
Default

It's been a week since I was told it would be "in a week," yet we're still on the old frequencies.

Fortunately, my pair of Pro-107s arrived earlier than expected, so I'm ready for the change when it happens.

My feed is now running on a PRO-107.
Reply With Quote
  #60 (permalink)  
Old 04-17-2011, 3:28 AM
Member
   
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: reno nv
Posts: 302
Default

well he was worng then. we will know when it happens. and it could still happen it is sunday?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 6:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
All information here is Copyright 2012 by RadioReference.com LLC and Lindsay C. Blanton III.Ad Management by RedTyger
Copyright 2011 by RadioReference.com LLC Privacy Policy  |  Terms and Conditions