996XT and FreeScan Lockout problem

Rescue611 · #1 (**permalink**) 03-15-2013, 3:28 AM

I've got a conventional system with 9 groups programmed into FreeScan. I have 6 of the 9 groups locked out in FreeScan when I upload to my 996XT.

But once uploaded, the 996XT is scanning all 9 groups - not locking out the six.

All 9 are GPS-enabled, but I'm not in GPS mode. Just scanning by Quick Key.

I'm not experiencing this problem with other conventional systems/groups in my database.

Anybody have an idea what might be going on?

Many thanks.

cpuerror · #2 (**permalink**) 03-15-2013, 5:24 AM

Is it the groups or sites you have locked out?? You may also have the same system uploaded more than once.

Rescue611 · #3 (**permalink**) 03-15-2013, 8:06 PM

It's a conventional system, so there are no sites - just groups.

W8RMH · #4 (**permalink**) 03-15-2013, 10:52 PM

There are two ways to lockout a group.

1 - Assign it a GQK number and disable it.

2 - Go into the group menu and select "Set Lockout" and select "Lockout".

You probably have the GQKs enabled but the group(s) locked out.

Rescue611 · #5 (**permalink**) 03-15-2013, 11:02 PM

So, some more clarification and a little testing.

All my systems are assigned to SQK', and subordinate groups are assigned to GQK's.

So, let say I got SQK #1 not locked out, and beneath that I have GQK's 1-5 open and GQK's 6-9 locked out.

When I upload to scanner, what is perplexing me is the GQK's 6-9 don't show an asterix on the scanner screen, as they would when you lock them out manual from the faceplate. A little further testing seems to indicate that 6-9 ARE indeed locked out - I just don't see the asterix as if I'd locked them out manually.

Is this normal? I would think when you've locked out a GQK in FreeScan, you'd see the asterix on the scanner screen after upload.

What am I missing or failing to understand?

Many thanks.

Chauffeur6 · #6 (**permalink**) 03-15-2013, 11:07 PM

There is a fundamental difference between Locked Out and Quick Key Enable/Disable. I think you're confusing the two.

Locking out a System or Group prevents it from being scanned, regardless of what SQK/GQK's are enabled. If you lock a System/Group out, you will not see the asterisks, nor can you turn it back on simply by pressing that System/Group's QK.

Contrast that with not having Locked Out enabled, but enabling/disabling a System or Group via its QK. That is when you will see the asterisks for disabled QK's on Groups.

Rescue611 · #7 (**permalink**) 03-16-2013, 3:13 AM

@ Chauffeur6,

Thanks. This seems like a pretty simple concept and not sure why my head isn't quite wrapped around it. Perhaps I'm just tired. Your explanation does square with my experience.

Many thanks.

W8RMH · #8 (**permalink**) 03-16-2013, 3:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chauffeur6

There is a fundamental difference between Locked Out and Quick Key Enable/Disable. I think you're confusing the two.

Locking out a System or Group prevents it from being scanned, regardless of what SQK/GQK's are enabled. If you lock a System/Group out, you will not see the asterisks, nor can you turn it back on simply by pressing that System/Group's QK.

Contrast that with not having Locked Out enabled, but enabling/disabling a System or Group via its QK. That is when you will see the asterisks for disabled QK's on Groups.

This is where I was going but I guess I was too technical.

KC2BZB · #9 (**permalink**) 06-16-2013, 10:23 AM

Not sure if anyone has run into this?

I had a conventional System with three groups. I disabled all three groups using the Function/Group# from the keyboard. I could not re-enable the groups from the keypad (no asterisks showed on the display under Groups). I tried using the menu to unlock the groups, but both the system and each of the three groups were unlocked. I finally added a fourth group, and then the system scanned, showing group #4 unlocked, and asterisks for groups # 1-3. I then enabled groups 1-3 from the front panel, and deleted group #4.

Any thoughts on this?