win 96 key

[tbharper]

can i give someone my win 96 key if i no longer use it

[ROCKnTIME]

No you cannot transfer the software. I inquired about selling mine the other day and you can read the response I received from DonS below. I noticed that once again someone is attempting to do so in the "Equipment For Sale" forum with a PRO-96. I think they should post a sticky in that forum explaining this clearly to avoid and confusion.

http://www.radioreference.com/forums...ad.php?t=95792

[tbharper]

thats what i thought but wasnt sure thanks for the info

[jon23]

Of course you can sell it. Who cares what it says in the "license agreement"? The license agreement would never hold up in court.
If you purchased the product it is now yours and you can sell it if you wish.
It is up to the developer to design the product so it cant be transferable...

Best regards,
Jon

[fmon]

Originally Posted by jon23

Of course you can sell it. Who cares what it says in the "license agreement"? The license agreement would never hold up in court.
If you purchased the product it is now yours and you can sell it if you wish.
It is up to the developer to design the product so it cant be transferable...

Best regards,
Jon

IOW, one license is good for the world IYO. What a crock.

[ROCKnTIME]

Originally Posted by jon23

Of course you can sell it. Who cares what it says in the "license agreement"? The license agreement would never hold up in court.
If you purchased the product it is now yours and you can sell it if you wish.
It is up to the developer to design the product so it cant be transferable...

Best regards,
Jon

We all know that we could sell our keys over and over on eBay or better yet post them on every warez site from here to China, but most of us feel it’s wrong to take the food from someone’s table since they did all the hard work. The bottom line is its illegal regardless of whether or not it would hold up in court!! I would rather see more updates, features and future programs that benefit me verses making a buck.

[jon23]

"We all know that we could sell our keys over and over on eBay or better yet post them on every warez site from here to China"
Thats not what I am saying.
If I am not using the product anymore and decide to sell it, then there is nothing emoral about it... PERIOD. The developer already made their money on that individual product sale.
Apply this concept to anything else that you buy like your car or house etc... imagine if you could not recover any of your cost when you were done with them?? Whats the difference when it comes to software?
Also know that the developer of this product did not release it to get a warm and fuzzy feeling on all the forums, it was released for one reason and thats to make money. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but don't think that because people are selling his software that he won't have future updates, this is after all how the developer can make the most money. One could say that in some cases a security breach or hack is the number one motivator for a new release. On future releases the developer generally changes the security scheme to lessen any concerns of piracy...
If the developer was truly worried about people passing around keys he would have purchased one of a thousand different security wrappers that eliminate the possibility of passing keys. The wrapper currently used (armadillo) offers none of this protection.

Of course this is just my opinion and like a-holes every one has one

Best regards,
Jon

[jon23]

fmon I don't understand the acronyms...

[AlabamaRS]

The Key was NOT stolen or whatever it was PAID for, therefore he owns it & can do with it whatever he wishes. can who you bought your car from, tell you tht you can't sell it???

[ROCKnTIME]

I agree 100%, however the developer stated I could not transfer the software (Sell or give away) do to an agreement I made when purchasing a “license to use” the software. Do I agree with it? No!! Is it illegal if I sell or give away the software? Yes!! The Solution..think..think? Keep the said software and charge people for scanner programming. You can make more money than selling it anyway.... That’s legal right?

[spooney]

You are not buying it. It's kinda like a lease. You don't own a car when you lease it. You just pay for the right to use it. Same principle.

[fmon]

Originally Posted by jon23

fmon I don't understand the acronyms...

IOW= in other words. IYO= in your opinion.

[fmon]

Originally Posted by AlabamaRS

The Key was NOT stolen or whatever it was PAID for, therefore he owns it & can do with it whatever he wishes. can who you bought your car from, tell you tht you can't sell it???

Can you still use the car at will if sold? Not likely. Can you still use the software at will? Certainly, anytime you wish.

Folks, we are discussing a 30 buck software cost for a 500 buck scanner...Elsewhere Don wrote you may provide key as a promo when selling the scanner just like offering cable and batts etc. But you are responsible to never use it again. Also...the buyer will not be able to receive any support due to the software key is matched to the original purchase which includes the email address and users name. However, if buyer keeps a safe record of key, reinstall support shouldn't be needed.

[bergg]

I was issued a key in 2004 (pd $30 pay pal). I'm trying to download to new computer. It won't accept
the origianl key nor a temporary key.

Don is not answering my requests. Looks like another $30 will get it.

Not happy, Bob

[fmon]

Which key are you using?

if prior to Version 1.29 2004.02.29 13:00 PST, it won't work. If V 1.29 or later, you are likely entering the data incorrectly. I.e. my name part has 45 characters including full name, email used when registered and Dons included sequence data.

If you have the old computer in use, open Win96, click help and select License which will reveal your complete current key.

[TES]

Originally Posted by fmon

. . . If you have the old computer in use, open Win96, click help and select License which will reveal your complete current key.

To add to Frank's excellent post. the old computerr will have to be running Version 1.55 or newer to reveal the license information.

[fmon]

Thank you TES, I certainly missed that part.

[AlabamaRS]

Originally Posted by jon23

"We all know that we could sell our keys over and over on eBay or better yet post them on every warez site from here to China"
Thats not what I am saying.
If I am not using the product anymore and decide to sell it, then there is nothing emoral about it... PERIOD. The developer already made their money on that individual product sale.
Apply this concept to anything else that you buy like your car or house etc... imagine if you could not recover any of your cost when you were done with them?? Whats the difference when it comes to software?
Also know that the developer of this product did not release it to get a warm and fuzzy feeling on all the forums, it was released for one reason and thats to make money. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but don't think that because people are selling his software that he won't have future updates, this is after all how the developer can make the most money. One could say that in some cases a security breach or hack is the number one motivator for a new release. On future releases the developer generally changes the security scheme to lessen any concerns of piracy...
If the developer was truly worried about people passing around keys he would have purchased one of a thousand different security wrappers that eliminate the possibility of passing keys. The wrapper currently used (armadillo) offers none of this protection.

Of course this is just my opinion and like a-holes every one has one

Best regards,
Jon

Agreed

[DonS]

As long as we're bringing up 15-month-old posts...

"We all know that we could sell our keys over and over on eBay"

Someone is currently doing just that. I guess he's not concerned that his personal information (name, email address, postal address) is in the information he's "selling".

If the developer was truly worried about people passing around keys he would have purchased one of a thousand different security wrappers that eliminate the possibility of passing keys. The wrapper currently used (armadillo) offers none of this protection.

Actually, Armadillo does offer that, and Win96 used it prior to 01 March 2004. From the initial release until March 2004, keys were "hardware locked" - registration keys depended on a "hardware value" that was compiled from several machine-specific sources. A key generated for one PC wouldn't likely work on another. Unfortunately, that became a major headache - for me and for users. Moving to a new machine, or even replacing a network card, could invalidate a registration key. So, I switched from the "hardware locked" keys to keys based on "personal information".

EDIT: When the key system changed in March 2004, every registered user was invited via email to get a new, non-hardware-based key. Nearly all users took advantage of that; some did not (and now, more than 5 years later, seem to be discovering that their 5-year-old keys aren't working with new versions of Win96).

EDIT2: And some, who requested and were sent a new "non-hardware-based" key, are saying their original keys don't work... instead of using the "new format" keys they were sent in early March 2004.