talking to the DOW group

blueangel-eric · #1 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 01:30 AM

I see on the OK database that the DOW group uses murs. so has anyone got to talk to them out chasing? Do they talk to others or just in their group only? sure be fun to talk to them if i ever see them.

rdale · #2 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 10:41 AM

They don't chat with others while chasing, it's just within their group. You can listen, but don't transmit.

blueangel-eric · #3 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rdale

They don't chat with others while chasing, it's just within their group. You can listen, but don't transmit.

rats. that sucks. that would be great to talk to them. They're like my heroes of storm chasing. guess they got too much going on in their group.

RandyB · #4 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 02:12 PM

I'm doubtful they know anything about what type radios they're using and probably assume nobody can talk to them, legally at least. It seems like I recall hearing at least one of the members of the crew on 146.55 (2m ham simplex) briefly talking with other chasers once. I don't recall what the context of the conversation was.

K8TEK · #5 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rdale

They don't chat with others while chasing, it's just within their group. You can listen, but don't transmit.

I will transmit if I feel like it, they can't stop me. As long as I am not causing interference, they have just as much right to use MURS as I do!

trace1 · #6 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by K8TEK

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Originally Posted by rdale

They don't chat with others while chasing, it's just within their group. You can listen, but don't transmit.

I will transmit if I feel like it, they can't stop me. As long as I am not causing interference, they have just as much right to use MURS as I do!

Yes, as long as no one causes or attempts to cause harmful, malicious interference on the MURS (license-free) frequencies then anyone is allowed to transmitt...

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Multi-Use Radio Service (MURS)

In the Memorandum Opinion and Order and Second Report and Order released May 23, 2002, the Commission updated the service rules regarding five Industrial/Business Pool VHF frequencies known in the PLMR community as the VHF “color dot” frequencies. These frequencies were moved from Part 90 to Part 95 and became a new Citizens Band Radio Service (CB) named the Multi-Use Radio Service (MURS). The Commission defines MURS as a private, two-way, short-distance voice or data communications service for personal or business activities of the general public.

No licenses are issued for this service. An entity is authorized by rule to operate a MURS transmitter if it:
is not a foreign government or a representative of a foreign government; uses the transmitter in accordance with 47 CFR. 95.1309; otherwise operates in accordance with the rules contained in Sections 95.1301-95.1309.

Multi-Use Radio Service (MURS)

rdale · #7 (**permalink**) 12-17-2008, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by K8TEK

I will transmit if I feel like it, they can't stop me. As long as I am not causing interference, they have just as much right to use MURS as I do!

Interfering with severe weather and life saving research for no reason other than "my rights" -- just make sure you use your call sign too so people know you're a ham radio operator... It's recognition like that which the community can be proud of!

zguy1243 · #8 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 12:27 AM

I second that.

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Originally Posted by rdale

Interfering with severe weather and life saving research for no reason other than "my rights" -- just make sure you use your call sign too so people know you're a ham radio operator... It's recognition like that which the community can be proud of!

K8TEK · #9 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rdale

Interfering with severe weather and life saving research for no reason other than "my rights" -- just make sure you use your call sign too so people know you're a ham radio operator... It's recognition like that which the community can be proud of!

So, their research is more important then rules? I am not causing malicious interference by using the frequencies, so I would be doing nothing wrong. Apparently weather research is a reason to heed the frequency to them. Maybe they should get a ham radio license and use 1.25 meters, nobody uses that!

If they are ever in my area and I am using MURS, I certainly am not going to vacate the frequency simply because they are more important then me. Doppler on wheels is not the exclusive user of MURS, thousands of businesses use it too. As a matter of fact, some businesses are primary users on MURS and are licensed, the DOW idiots are required cease transmissions that interfere with those users.

rdale · #10 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by K8TEK

So, their research is more important then rules?

What?

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I am not causing malicious interference by using the frequencies, so I would be doing nothing wrong.

Why would you choose to jump on the frequencies they are using?

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Apparently weather research is a reason to heed the frequency to them.

If they are using it and you have no need jump in, then yes - I agree.

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Maybe they should get a ham radio license and use 1.25 meters, nobody uses that!

That would require all the team members to become hams...

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If they are ever in my area and I am using MURS, I certainly am not going to vacate the frequency simply because they are more important then me.

Nobody said that you need to vacate the frequency.

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the DOW idiots are required cease transmissions that interfere with those users.

I wanted to quote the "idiots" part. They are risking their lives to protect everyone (even people like you) and you drop to the level of calling them idiots? Because they happen to use some MURS frequencies, and that's upsetting to you? Wow.. I bet those DOW people really want to rush to get their license so they can be just like you...

NeFire242 · #11 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 01:46 AM

They chose to risk their lives.

rdale · #12 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 10:14 AM

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They chose to risk their lives.

Yep - just as firefighters and police officers do, so I guess we know what you guys call them too!

K8TEK · #13 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 10:18 AM

Don't EVEN compare the people from DOW to firefighters. Putting your life on the line for research is a lot different then putting your life on the line for other lives.

1002 · #14 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 03:11 PM

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Don't EVEN compare the people from DOW to firefighters. Putting your life on the line for research is a lot different then putting your life on the line for other lives.

Oh, ??????? What do astronauts and test pilots do???????????????

I've been in the FF business for 331/2 yrs. Do you know when not to put your life on the line?? Do not put yourself in a position where you may not go home to-nite.

rdale · #15 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 03:24 PM

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Putting your life on the line for research is a lot different then putting your life on the line for other lives.

The research ends up saving lives in the end... The point is - they chose to do it, so that others might live. Seems noble to me, but if you think it's a waste then I'd suggest you tell all of your friends to never take shelter in a tornado warning while you're at it.

brentoli · #16 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rdale

The research ends up saving lives in the end... The point is - they chose to do it, so that others might live. Seems noble to me, but if you think it's a waste then I'd suggest you tell all of your friends to never take shelter in a tornado warning while you're at it.

Tell them to wait for the tornado emergency instead. Hah.

(Carry over from a diffrent forum)

rdale · #17 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 04:09 PM

Nice connection

K8TEK · #18 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by 1002

Oh, ??????? What do astronauts and test pilots do???????????????

I've been in the FF business for 331/2 yrs. Do you know when not to put your life on the line?? Do not put yourself in a position where you may not go home to-nite.

I'm not sure what what that means, other then you are old.

brentoli · #19 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 05:16 PM

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I'm not sure what what that means, other then you are old.

I'm not sure what that means, other than your making an ass of yourself.

redhelmet13 · #20 (**permalink**) 12-18-2008, 05:20 PM

Please stay in Ohio in the spring. I have been listening to the DOW team since the Vortex days. They have helped keep us out a a jam in a lot of cases... (most of the time the key is to stay away from them since they vector into the part of the storm I would rather stand off from. (We know better to NOT be part of the hoard convoy.) If you chime in and "join" thier comms - they will decide to go where we can no longer listen to them. I implore you to reconsider your train of thought.

Thanks