sync problems hf wefax

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ericfurn

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For quite a while now I have had problems with the NOAA hf wefaxs jumping sync. I thought it was my setup,
but calibration with wwv (using JVCom32 here) kept a straight line for an hour. I finally checked the fax
reception using another computer and rx simultaneously. The sync discontinuities exactly matched on both units. Finally sent an e-mail to noaa. They admitted to "technical difficulties". Some of the faxes were so garbled they were unusable. Wonder how fishing boats and such at sea aren't really p.o.ed.?

Eric WA3UYI
 

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I'm having the same problem with the Boston & New Orleans stations, glad someone found out the problem. I thought I had a problem with my computer.

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Is this what you all are seeing? This is Fldigi 4.0.1 on OS X 10.12, RXing from 9108.100 (nominally 9110)
 

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Can someone tell me how often this issue is happening? I am the person who works directly on this for NWS and joined this forum to get a better understanding of the frequency of this issue every day from the user community.

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For me this happened all day yesterday. Haven't seen a transmission out of Boston yet this AM. OS2 Martinez from USCG CAMSLANT had good signal, but could replicate the issue yesterday per her email reply to me.

NOLA this morning on 8502.00 actual (8503.9 nominal) is doing this as of 0943 hrs EDT (1343 UTC)

Also, to help with debugging:
* Have tried this with FLDigi 4.0.1, FLDigi 3.23.13, and MultimodeCocoa 6.8.0. All jump at the same point, which tells me something before the computer is the issue.
* Receiving on a Yaesu FT-897D with SignaLinkUSB
 
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Ok she just replied to me at 9:38AM ET and told me there were no issues from when she talked to me yesterday about 4:15PM ET and the time she sent me the email.

We are trying to isolate where the problem resides as we have ability to get them the charts on multiple paths for the dissemination over the radio bands.
 

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Not sure why the messages I am sending are not showing up even after multiple hours but...

We are trying to isolate where the issue is but the USCG folks have said there are no issues with the images on their end since last night about 4:15 Eastern.
 

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Not sure why the messages I am sending are not showing up even after multiple hours but...

We are trying to isolate where the issue is but the USCG folks have said there are no issues with the images on their end since last night about 4:15 Eastern.
New users posts are subject to moderation. After you post a few more times they will show up immediately.
 

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Ok... so for those checking the HFFax radio broadcast can you tel me if this issue has ceased? We made a change to where the USCG receives the data at about 4pm eastern or so.
 

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10:47PM EDT copy from 9.108.1 shows the problem persisting. This was received with the Drake R8A into the sound card
 

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One other thing...can you tell me when this issue started? We are trying to figure that out to see if either USCG or us did something at the time this started which may have caused the problem.
 

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Was able to copy from Pt. Reyes around 11:30 EDT (1530UTC) on the Drake. It does not have this problem (only a few sections out of sync) but it was a relatively weak signal for me.

Tried to copy Kodiak per the published list at 1540UTC (1140 EDT) but couldn't get a read on anything.
 

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Kodiak is not within our office at this point. THey disseminate out of AK where the three in the continental US are from our facilities in CO and MD.
 

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The first poster discussed having seeing this for a while in late June of this year. The other two indivduals commented within the last week or so. (12 sep, 15 Sep)

W7HD posted about WEFAX on the 16th to a linux ham group and I started playing with it at that point. I have not had an image come across correctly. When I started troubleshooting, I found this thread. This seems to be the only place anyone else has had a sync issue along these lines that I can find.

Here's the Point Reyes copy (below the clear piece at the top). there's some sync jumping, but nothing along the lines of the Boston/NOLA issue.
 

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Alright I may be not here all the time posting but we are looking into the issue and if you want to post this fact in the other forum that is fine....this is now an issue being seen by management so we are trying to get to a resolution as quickly as possible.
 
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