KHP "zones" within troop areas.

rankin39 · Aug 30, 2009

Does anyone have a map of the radio ZONES within each of the KHP troops. For example, Troop A, Kansas City, has zones B, C and D with separate talk groups for each such zone. Is there info available on geographical boundaries (assuming the zones are geographical in nature and not just freq. or TG groupings within the radios) of these zones? I don't monitor a whole lot of KHP and would be interested in knowing what zone southern LV Co is in so that I can exclude a lot of the WYCO and JOCO traffic.

Bob, WoNXN

KAA951 · Aug 30, 2009

Troop A is set up differently than the other areas of the state. The zones are not set up geographically- they are set up by shift, each under the supervision of a LT. Once KHP in Troop A completely switches to digital I wouldn't be surprised if all the dispatch troopwide worked off of A-KHP-1.

rankin39 · Aug 31, 2009

Thanks for that. Looks like there's no good way to avoid all the big city radio traffic out here in the boonies except by locking out individual TGs.

Bob

blueangel-eric · Sep 12, 2010

Sorry for bring up a old thread but i am looking for a map of the zones as well. it seems there's many car to car zones and i don't what areas use each one.
thanks

KAA951 · Sep 13, 2010

I don't know of any maps of the KHP zones.

Here is what I have derived from listening (feel free to chime in / correct these anyone)

A-1 is used by the troops in Leavenworth and Miami Counties. The metro troops are still using the "old" Johnson County system- for now.

B-1 seems to be a catch all used by specialty troops (aircraft, canine, motor carrier).
B-A is the northeast counties in Troop B (Jefferson, Atchison, Brown, Doniphan)
B-B used in Jackson Co
B-C is used in Osage Co
B-D is the western counties of Troop B (Wabaunsee/Pottawatomie)
B-E is used in Douglas and Franklin counties

C-1 is the area around Salina and McPherson
C-2 is the area north along US 36 around Concordia and Belleville
C-3 is the Manhattan and Junction City areas

H-1 is the north half of Troop H
H-2 is the south half of Troop H

F anyone???

blueangel-eric · Sep 13, 2010

Thanks for the info. every little bit helps. i'm surprised someone doesn't post a map in the wiki or on the KSICS page for the Troops and Zones. If only i knew where all the troop car to car zones A,B,C,D are.

KAA951 said:
I don't know of any maps of the KHP zones.

Here is what I have derived from listening (feel free to chime in / correct these anyone)

A-1 is used by the troops in Leavenworth and Miami Counties. The metro troops are still using the "old" Johnson County system- for now.

B-1 seems to be a catch all used by specialty troops (aircraft, canine, motor carrier).
B-A is the northeast counties in Troop B (Jefferson, Atchison, Brown, Doniphan)
B-B used in Jackson Co
B-C is used in Osage Co
B-D is the western counties of Troop B (Wabaunsee/Pottawatomie)
B-E is used in Douglas and Franklin counties

C-1 is the area around Salina and McPherson
C-2 is the area north along US 36 around Concordia and Belleville
C-3 is the Manhattan and Junction City areas

H-1 is the north half of Troop H
H-2 is the south half of Troop H

F anyone???

mancow · Sep 13, 2010

I've noticed the State ICS "template" programmed radios don't have the sub zones in them. This makes it impossible to monitor a good portion of the KHP traffic with one. I suppose they figured that in an emergency traffic would be routed to main talk groups or event groups but I was a bit surprised that they didn't include the zones.

blueangel-eric · Sep 13, 2010

mancow said:
I've noticed the State ICS "template" programmed radios don't have the sub zones in them. This makes it impossible to monitor a good portion of the KHP traffic with one. I suppose they figured that in an emergency traffic would be routed to main talk groups or event groups but I was a bit surprised that they didn't include the zones.

what do you mean by State ICS "template" radios?

n0lqt · Sep 14, 2010

KHP-F seems to only be divided into Metro, Zone 1, and Zone 2 so far. Metro is Sedgwick County only. Zone 1 seems to be Reno, Harvey, Butler, Cowley, and Sumner. Zone 2 is Harper, Kingman, Rice, Barber, Pratt, Stafford, and Barton the best I've been able to map out. I've been collecting the individual Radio ID numbers to assigned unit and area for different agencies in my area, but I'm somewhat reluctant to share that. I know, it's publicly available information thru the system, but just my years in Law Enforcement says that's just too much specific information for general release. Plus, I spent a LOT of time just sitting there listening and integrating the traffic to the correct Radio ID and then determining the patrol area they were working.

dgruver911 · Sep 16, 2010

blueangel-eric said:
what do you mean by State ICS "template" radios?

Every radio the state programs on their system has a base template in it.
Here is a link to the book they provide that pretty well explains it all and maps it all out:

http://kansastag.ks.gov/AdvHTML_Doc_Upload/MutualAidRefGuide_11-2008 Revised.pdf

So in a nutshell, there are 31 zones of up to 16 talkgroups, so it is huge and rather complex. Then you can add in your local zones and talkgroups and make it REALLY complicated

And my understanding is Sedgwick County's template for their P25 system will make this look simple....

fmon · Sep 16, 2010

dgruver911 said:
Every radio the state programs on their system has a base template in it.
Here is a link to the book they provide that pretty well explains it all and maps it all out:

http://kansastag.ks.gov/AdvHTML_Doc_Upload/MutualAidRefGuide_11-2008 Revised.pdf

So in a nutshell, there are 31 zones of up to 16 talkgroups, so it is huge and rather complex. Then you can add in your local zones and talkgroups and make it REALLY complicated And my understanding is Sedgwick County's template for their P25 system will make this look simple....

Above URL gives me
404 - File or directory not found.

The resource you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

can you re-check?

Thanks.

dgruver911 · Sep 16, 2010

fmon said:
Above URL gives me
404 - File or directory not found.

The resource you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

can you re-check?

Thanks.

http://kansastag.ks.gov/AdvHTML_Doc_Upload/MutualAidRefGuide_11-2008 Revised.pdf

It's still there not sure why it changed when I pasted it this morning. If it somehow glitches again, just google Kansas Interoperability Guide it shows up on several sites (KS APCO, KSFFA, KAG/SEIC). dg

darkstar2002 · Sep 16, 2010

Ive heard some reno county traffic on F2

fmon · Sep 16, 2010

dgruver911 said:
http://kansastag.ks.gov/AdvHTML_Doc_Upload/MutualAidRefGuide_11-2008 Revised.pdf

It's still there not sure why it changed when I pasted it this morning. If it somehow glitches again, just google Kansas Interoperability Guide it shows up on several sites (KS APCO, KSFFA, KAG/SEIC). dg

Outstanding pdf!
Thanks.

khphighwayman · Sep 16, 2010

KAA951 said:
I don't know of any maps of the KHP zones.

Here is what I have derived from listening (feel free to chime in / correct these anyone)

A-1 is used by the troops in Leavenworth and Miami Counties. The metro troops are still using the "old" Johnson County system- for now.

B-1 seems to be a catch all used by specialty troops (aircraft, canine, motor carrier).
B-A is the northeast counties in Troop B (Jefferson, Atchison, Brown, Doniphan)
B-B used in Jackson Co
B-C is used in Osage Co
B-D is the western counties of Troop B (Wabaunsee/Pottawatomie)
B-E is used in Douglas and Franklin counties

C-1 is the area around Salina and McPherson
C-2 is the area north along US 36 around Concordia and Belleville
C-3 is the Manhattan and Junction City areas

H-1 is the north half of Troop H
H-2 is the south half of Troop H

F anyone???

Everything is correct... except that B-B aka Troop B Zone B is Pottawatomie and Wabaunsee counties and B-D aka Troop B Zone D is Jackson County guys. Id suggest putting in the B-Event 3 in your list also...thats interesting to listen to during severe weather, its a link to NWS office in Topeka. I think most of the counties in NE KS are using that now to report in and get info from them.

blueangel-eric · Jul 27, 2011

Sorry to bring this thread back to life but i thought someone had posted a map of the KHP sub zones but i can't find it on my hard drive or on the website. i swear i seen the map on radio reference but now i can't find it.
thanks

n0lqt · Jul 28, 2011

I think this is the one you are looking for:

http://forums.radioreference.com/1525318-post251.html

blueangel-eric · Jul 28, 2011

n0lqt said:
I think this is the one you are looking for:

http://forums.radioreference.com/1525318-post251.html

thanks that's the one. that thread is so long i must have missed it when skimming through it. i wonder why that important map isn't posted on the KSICS wiki?

n0lqt · Jul 28, 2011

blueangel-eric said:
thanks that's the one. that thread is so long i must have missed it when skimming through it. i wonder why that important map isn't posted on the KSICS wiki?

"Ask and ye shall receive...."

Take a look and see if that works...............

blueangel-eric · Jul 28, 2011

n0lqt said:
"Ask and ye shall receive...."

Take a look and see if that works...............

perfect. thanks i'm sure others will appreciate it.

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