4.8k Nexedge CC in W. Quebec

Just wondering which town, small city, or MRC in West Que. would be using a 4.8k Nexedge system
with control channel on 152.105. It's fairly strong in the vicinity of Hawkesbury on the Ontario side.

Nothing is listed in TAFL which correlates to this, and early indication is police, fire,
and possibly some other services use this system. Can someone narrow this down if
only to locate where is the CC? The CC does not appear to rotate.

Dave

OK, more than a week and over 200 views but no response. Is anyone at all
interested in this system? You would think the word "police" would perk up
a few ears.

Dave

Mrc Papineau (east of Gatineau, along the Ottawa River), have a Nexedge system for towns fire dept of this Mrc.

TAFL search on MRC de Papineau turns up a bunch of frequencies but 152.105 is not
one of them. It appears to be a separate system. If it's blocked in TAFL you would tend
wonder what it's used for.

Dave

NXDN48 System 2038 Site 1

Dave,
I guess I should check the Quebec forms more often.

I show 152.105 as NXDN48 System 2038 Site 1

I am east of Ottawa near 417 and exit 96.

Mike

Interesting. Still not sure if it's connected to the MRC de Papineau though they
use VHF NXDN. Pretty sure but not confirmed it's on the Que. side. Voice
channels are out there somewhere. Visited Infoscan but didn't see any discussion
of it.

Dave

data from DSD for 152.105

Dave,

Here is the data from DSD for 152.105
It is not a very strong signal.

Are there any other NXDN frequency's you would like me to try?

Mike

Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Ctl Ch DATA RAN:1 SRV_INFO Local Sys:2038 Site:1
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Ctl Ch DATA RAN:1 SRV_INFO Local Sys:2038 Site:1
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Ctl Ch DATA RAN:1 VCALL_ASSGN GC SI:2311 DI:1005 Ch:4
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Ctl Ch DATA

MRC de Papineau has some channels in the 152-154 range, supposedly public
works but may or may not be more than that. I mentioned this a couple of times
earlier, but no apparent interest at the time in pursuing it.

A year or so back I heard NXDN CC on 451.725, but on a recent trip out as far
as Wendover, did not hear it; might be worth another check. It would be north of
Cornwall (Bonnville).

Dave

Also, Mike (or anyone) if you could check 162.1200 east of Ottawa; I heard a 9.6k
NXDN CC during the summer, though normally out of range except during enhanced
conditions. Alternatively it might be on 163.0350.

Dave

Dave, nothing yet on 451.725 but I will keep an eye on it.

162.120 shows as 2076 Site 2 channel 20

Here is what i have so far for 150:

151.205 DMR NO INFO
152.105 2038 SITE 1 NXDN48
152.300 2004 SITE 11 NXDN48
152.435 2004 8 NXDN48
152.555 2004 10 NXDN48
152.997 2004 12 NXDN48
153.005 2004 6 NXDN48
153.035 2004 5 NXDN48
153.050 2004 7 NXDN48
153.485 NXDN NO INFO

162.120 2076 2 CH 20 NXDN96
165.540 2076 1 NXDN96


Mike

153.155 from DSD today:

153.155 from DSD today:

SACCH: RAN:1 VCALL AC SI:1087 DI:1001 Clear(0)
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:====
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:==
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:
SACCH: RAN:1 VCALL GC SI:3407 DI:1001 Clear(0)
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:
Sync: no sync

for 154.415:

And for 154.415:

Group call, TG=1001 rRID=3512 POL-3512

SACCH: RAN:1 VCALL GC SI:3512 DI:1001 Scram(0)
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:==T=
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:====
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:===
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:==

For 153.485

153.485:

Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 51% NexEdge Tfc Ch DATA
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 30% NexEdge Tfc Ch DATA
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 21% NexEdge Tfc Ch DATA
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 16% NexEdge Tfc Ch DATA
VCALL GC SI:3301 DI:1001 Scram(0) SACCH: RAN:1 IDLE
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 13% NexEdge Tfc Ch DATA
VCALL GC SI:3301 DI:1001 Scram(0) VCALL GC SI:3301 DI:1001 Scram(0)
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 12% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:Start voice output stream

SACCH: RAN:1 IDLE
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 11% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 11% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 11% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 11% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:==E
SACCH: RAN:1 IDLE
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 11% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:==
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 11% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:==
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 11% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:=====
SACCH: RAN:1 VCALL GC SI:3301 DI:1001 Scram(0)
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 11% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:======
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 11% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:=======E
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:
Syncing voice output stream
Start voice output stream

ETC THEN

SACCH: RAN:1 IDLE
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 11% NexEdge Tfc Ch DATA TX_REL_EX GC SI:3301 DI:1001

mmisk said:

And for 154.415:

Group call, TG=1001 rRID=3512 POL-3512

SACCH: RAN:1 VCALL GC SI:3512 DI:1001 Scram(0)
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:==T=
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:====
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:===
Sync: +NXDN48 mod: GFSK inlvl: 10% NexEdge Tfc Ch VOICE e:==

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The RID tag suggests police use.. Does the above indicate encryption?

Which community would be large enough to have its own trunked system in that
general area (Lachute maybe?), which does not use SQ for policing (or other such
as MRC des Collines de l'Outaouais)? Anyone?

Dave

I've heard something which might be NXDN96 trunking (or conventional) on 423.800,
424.150 and 423.025. Earlier I thought I'd heard a CC on 424.150 but it may have been
a long voice transmission, or data or ....? Frequencies come back to CKD776 (Protec)

Dave

423.800, 424.150 and 423.025 etc.

Dave,

I set everything up for 423.800 and it was on all afternoon while I was out but nothing was recorded.
Will keep an eye on the other frequency's.

Checking 424.15 now

Mike

mmisk: All MRC Papineau area is under SQ & MRC des Collines de l'Outaouais is still in VHF analog.

I will give it a try tonight to see if I receive it...

roots said:

MRC des Collines de l'Outaouais is still in VHF analog.

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Agreed, I check occasionally and find MRC...Police still on their 153Mhz and 165MHz
channels.

Meantime I will keep guessing at the location of the NexEdge system....Mt. Tremblant
perhaps? I used to hear one of their fire channels on 151.700MHz, have not checked
recently but don't see anything in TAFL; do they use SQ, their own PD, or some other
regional service I might not be aware of?

Dave

DaveH said:

Agreed, I check occasionally and find MRC...Police still on their 153Mhz and 165MHz
channels.

Meantime I will keep guessing at the location of the NexEdge system....Mt. Tremblant
perhaps? I used to hear one of their fire channels on 151.700MHz, have not checked
recently but don't see anything in TAFL; do they use SQ, their own PD, or some other
regional service I might not be aware of?

Dave

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Mt Tremblant have their own PD, I will run some testing tonight to see if I can find anything.

roots said:

Mt Tremblant have their own PD, I will run some testing tonight to see if I can find anything.

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OK thanks roots...I hardly ever venture up that way, maybe once a year, partly due
to price of gas, but I have just seen Ottawa price fall below $1 (99.9c at Costco Merivale),
so who knows.

Dave