Morning folks, thanks for participating. Glad to see lots of varied response, and I appreciate the criticism too, which I'll answer below.
Since the PSR-500 was the first scanner to have an analyze mode and I have used it, I think I know what analyze does. what do you think it does?
The functions in the HP1 (and presumably what will ultimately be in the x36) are vastly different than the single function called "Analyze" in the PSR-500/600. It's not the same thing at all. What "Analyze" in the PSR-500 does is give you the WACN, SID, NAC, and site ID (and receive strength) on a given trunk frequency. On the HP1 and x36, Analyze Mode is a suite of tools which perform various functions on trunk systems. Both henrygb and XTS3000 have outlined the different tools, above.
This is a flawed/biased poll. You ask a yes/no question, then offer only "yes" options that presume Analyze is a function important to the respondent. It should have at least one option to indicate the respondent knows what it is, but wouldn't find it useful, or does not attach a high level of importance to the fact it's currently unavailable.
I have an HP1 and never use Analyze Mode on it, because it is little more than a toy, compared to Pro96Com, UT, T88....
(flawed poll is flawed..)
(which I guess is kinda appropriate for the topic..)
Actually, this poll should allow one or more responses. I answered: Have HP1/use analyze.
But in reality, I also know what Analyze Mode does and I would use it if it was available (on the 436/536HP), and I certainly know it was offered on the box and am keenly aware that is missing from the 436HP/536HP, one of the reasons I bought these radios.
Steve AA6IO
I do concede, in some respects, the poll may appear to be flawed. But perhaps I'm not looking for the answers you think I'm looking for.
The first and last answers are "no" answers (at least, that was my intention), and the middle two are "yes" answers. I'm aware that it is possible that people could want to say "yes" to both of the yes answers, and in fact, I'm one of them. But what I'm looking for is that people choose the answer that applies the most to them - if they have used it in the HP1, I want to see that, even if they would use it in the x36 when/if it becomes available.
As for not using Analyze on the HP1 because of its inferiority to full software applications, that's understandable. All those applications are also inferior, in some ways, to things like ZoneWatch and Genesis.
On the other hand, the dumps that the HP1 Activity Log saves on P25 systems can be imported into PRO96COM for better analysis. And it is often easier to take out an HP1 and run Analyze than pull out a computer and an inline scanner.
I said I'd explain what features I use most on Analyze myself. The link henrygb posted from the Uniden wiki is an excellent depiction of what the HP1 Analyze mode has to offer.
Personally, I use Activity Log most often, as I'm always finding P25 systems to "sleuth out" (discover, identify properties/sites/locations/functions, etc). As mentioned above, I import the data into PRO96COM to do better analysis on it - the display of the activity log on the HP1 is indeed flawed, with serious shortcomings, and the "translated" log data saved with the raw dumps has some problems (mathematical errors in the iden tables, etc). I have used EDACS and LTR LCN finder to sort out a number of such systems, and it is interesting to watch it do its work. System Status and LCN Monitor I don't use very often as they don't do much for the goals I have (mainly figuring out P25 systems, as mentioned above). The Current Activity screen is most like Unitrunker or T88's main displays, and gets a little bit of use, but not much, because if I wanted that display, well, I have Unitrunker and a handful of SDR dongles to do that job. Band Scope and RF Power Plot I use rarely, but really should try to work with them more because they have a lot of potential, some of which some of you have already mentioned in this thread.
I left Trunked Discovery out of the discussion because it is already available in the x36. I use it from time to time on both my 436 and my HP1, when I am looking at a new (to me) system, or checking an existing system to see if I really do have all the talkgroups (I tend to keep most of my systems in favorites lists on "ID Search" anyway).
Viewing these images, no one can explain how it could be on the screen of the x36 series, however Uniden offered it when promoting the x36 series, but if uniden offered it, all assumed they knew how it could be in the x36 series. On the other hand, the analyze feature would not have seemingly nothing to do with the wifi module, and problems with this module has uniden would not have to affect the release it
I wasn't going to touch on the latter half of this statement because it brushes up against the issues that tend to throw threads into the fighting that gets them locked. What I will say is, yes, I agree that a lot of these displays would be tricky, if at all possible, on either the 436 or 536 (and both of them would of course need different designs since the displays are of different dimensions and layouts). However, a lot of the functions don't necessarily need the fancy graphical displays that the HP1 shows off. For example, LCN Finder - do you really need the large grid display on-screen showing where it's plotting channels? Or is a list of LCNs from LCN 01 to LCN 28 (or however many channels are relevant) with "Working.." and "Done!" beside each sufficient?
As for whether or not they could release it in the x36, I would hazard a guess that the display of data is probably a large part of the delay in making it work. Maybe fixing some of the bugs I mentioned in Activity Log is on the table too. At the same time, people have already been complaining that the HP2 was released, and they are suggesting that the effort done in developing the HP2 should have been devoted to making the x36 Wi-Fi and app work. So if people had been pulled from the x36 Wi-Fi/app project to get Analyze sorted out, you'd have the same kind of complaint.
I like the Analyze Mode in the HP-1 so much, that's why I'd like to see it in the.... Well you know....
Oh trust me, I am with you too. When I travel to new places, I carry around one of my HP1s simply because if I need to do analysis on a system, I can't use my 436. It'd be a lot more efficient if I could use the 436 for it as well.
As I said before, thanks everyone for your input!
