Gananoque Police Going Digital

gfdfortynine · Nov 12, 2014

Gananoque Police are now testing digital radios. Don't have any more info other than the portable I glanced at was a Motorola smaller in size than our xts2500s. There was no other identifiers on it. The fire radio system was down during the install at dispatch so maybe its P25 like the fire dept.
I've tried to search for frequencies but nothing new come up for Gananoque. I don't put a lot of faith in the search anyway Gananoque Fire is not listed there either. Probably doesn't matter anyway because it will likely be encrypted. The old analogue radios were.

VE3RADIO · Nov 13, 2014

gfdfortynine said:
Gananoque Police are now testing digital radios. Don't have any more info other than the portable I glanced at was a Motorola smaller in size than our xts2500s. There was no other identifiers on it. The fire radio system was down during the install at dispatch so maybe its P25 like the fire dept.
I've tried to search for frequencies but nothing new come up for Gananoque. I don't put a lot of faith in the search anyway Gananoque Fire is not listed there either. Probably doesn't matter anyway because it will likely be encrypted. The old analogue radios were.

Maybe its TRBO.

Jay911 · Nov 13, 2014

Motorola's P25 radios are getting larger in size than the XTS2500, not smaller, so odds are stratospheric that it's TRBO. Here's a representative image - did they look like any of these?

DaveH · Nov 13, 2014

gfdfortynine said:
Gananoque Police are now testing digital radios. Don't have any more info other than the portable I glanced at was a Motorola smaller in size than our xts2500s. There was no other identifiers on it. The fire radio system was down during the install at dispatch so maybe its P25 like the fire dept.
I've tried to search for frequencies but nothing new come up for Gananoque. I don't put a lot of faith in the search anyway Gananoque Fire is not listed there either. Probably doesn't matter anyway because it will likely be encrypted. The old analogue radios were.

Have you heard any changes on the existing frequency(ies)? As far as encryption, probably, but you never know.

Dave

gfdfortynine · Nov 13, 2014

Jay911 said:
Motorola's P25 radios are getting larger in size than the XTS2500, not smaller, so odds are stratospheric that it's TRBO. Here's a representative image - did they look like any of these?

Might have been one of the first 3. Was definitely smaller radio than we have. On duty this weekend will try to see what's in the cruisers.

I haven't been listening to current frequency it enc. but good point maybe they using it.

gfdfortynine · Nov 13, 2014

Yup. There using the same frequency. I punched it into the home patrol and got lots of digital noise.

Jay911 · Nov 13, 2014

If the HP isn't decoding it, that's another sign it's likely TRBO.

DaveH · Nov 14, 2014

gfdfortynine said:
Yup. There using the same frequency. I punched it into the home patrol and got lots of digital noise.

If I recall you have a tapped scanner so why not try DSD+ software. Chances are if it's
DMR (aka TRBO) it uses privacy (enc) but at least you could confirm it is DMR (or not).

Dave

gfdfortynine · Nov 14, 2014

DaveH said:
If I recall you have a tapped scanner so why not try DSD+ software. Chances are if it's
DMR (aka TRBO) it uses privacy (enc) but at least you could confirm it is DMR (or not).

Dave

Yes I have a spare tapped scanner. I've never used this DSD software. Will look into it when I get a chance.

gfdfortynine · Nov 16, 2014

Its DMR. The one transmission I received so far was garbled. Still reading up on DSD+, so I don't know what all the stuff on the screen means other than it says DMR.

gfdfortynine · Nov 16, 2014

Got lots of traffic this aft but all the audio was garbled. Wasnt sure if signal was good enough for dsd+ so I plugged in a p25 frequency. Audio was good on that so I'm guessing it's encrypted. It does show the source radio IDs etc which line up to the car numbers, so at the very least I knew who was talking.
This DSD+ softwares pretty neat stuff.

Forts · Nov 16, 2014

If you make a raw recording using the 'R' button we can help you determine what you are seeing...

gfdfortynine · Nov 22, 2014

here's a recording

filehosting.org | Download | DSDPlus-Raw-Input_2014-11-22@104500.wav

Forts · Nov 22, 2014

MotoTRBO with privacy. Talkgroup 100, Color Code 10.

gfdfortynine · Nov 22, 2014

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