Manchester NH Police

TheLPGuy · May 28, 2015

Hey guys, I am new to using scanners. I work close with MPD and bought a scanner to use to listen to them throughout the day. I only want the manchester police dispatch channel 1 and 2 programmed into my uniden. I have other police departments just can't seem to find the frequency specific for their dispatch channels. I know they run the edacs system so any help that can get me those 2 channels will be awesome!

Matt0691 · Jun 7, 2015

You will need a scanner that is capable of scanning the EDACS trucked radio system, after that you can program just the police talkgroups if you want. The Manchester system is not like all of the other NH systems that require one frequency to listen to their operations.

DickH · Jun 7, 2015

TheLPGuy said:
Hey guys, I am new to using scanners. I work close with MPD and bought a scanner to use to listen to them throughout the day. I only want the manchester police dispatch channel 1 and 2 programmed into my uniden. I have other police departments just can't seem to find the frequency specific for their dispatch channels. I know they run the edacs system so any help that can get me those 2 channels will be awesome!

You had better scroll down to the New Hampshire forum and ask there. There is a note in the database dated 2003 that says they might update the system to Pro-Voice Digital. As far as I know, Prop-Voice can not be monitored by any scanner.
Just FYI, it is a truNked system, not a trucked system.

Matt0691 · Jun 7, 2015

They do NOT use pro voice for dispatch. Only for sensitive comm's which is rare.

mikewazowski · Jun 7, 2015

Moved to New Hampshire forum.

k1agh · Jun 7, 2015

Use whats on here and this-http://scan-ne.net/wiki/index.php?title=Manchester_NH_Trunk_System#Police_Talkgroups

Make sure your scanner can do their system.

jmarcel66 · Jun 8, 2015

Manchester NH Trunk System - Scan New England Wiki

The current EDACS system will be replaced within the next couple of years with a P25 Digital trunked system.

mainetrunk · Jun 9, 2015

Probably to OPEN SKY. What a name, --open-- sky.. More like encrypted sky
http://www.w2sjw.com/sounds/OpenSky.mp3
http://www.w2sjw.com/sounds/OpenSky_Voice.mp3

Matt0691 · Jun 9, 2015

I'm sure they will switch to an actual P25 trunked system for interoperability. Nashua is planning to upgrade their system to a P25 trunk as well. It's all about the times

jmarcel66 · Jun 9, 2015

mainetrunk said:
Probably to OPEN SKY. What a name, --open-- sky.. More like encrypted sky
http://www.w2sjw.com/sounds/OpenSky.mp3
http://www.w2sjw.com/sounds/OpenSky_Voice.mp3

It will be a P25 trunked system. One goal is that Nashua and Manchester will be able to communicate on each others system. It will not be OpenSky. That is older technology and not often offered anymore.

mainetrunk · Jun 9, 2015

Open sky older? Cool, O.K, thank you sir

idle00955 · Jan 31, 2016

I own a MA-Com P7170IP and Manchester does use Pro Voice every now and then. Its the same radio the police are using.

If they go P25 hoping VHF then I can use my Motorola APX6000. If they stay at 800mhz then Ill have to get a APX 7000. I wonder if they will stay with Harris Ma-Com or move to motorola.

jmarcel66 · Feb 1, 2016

They will be going to a Motorola P25 800Mhz trunked system. Unsure when they will begin migrating.

ecps92 · Feb 1, 2016

Probably Nashua first, didn't I read how Manchester was going to use the CORE from Nashua ?

Nashua has begun to migrate from the old system to the new P25 as of this past Fall

jmarcel66 said:
They will be going to a Motorola P25 800Mhz trunked system. Unsure when they will begin migrating.

idle00955 · Feb 1, 2016

I just don't get why they would move to Motorola when Harris has p25 and they are already using Harris. Sounds like they could upgrade mobiles and portables and buy a Harris central setup. Plus Harris you can use old edcas with p25. I like the fact Harris is easy to program without issues you get from a Motorola trucking setup. How many millions is this for them to migrate?

jmarcel66 · Feb 1, 2016

Some of the newer Harris radios Manchester has could be flashed for the P25, but not all. The EDACS system itself needed replacing to become P25. In theory (and by P25 standards) regardless of manufacturer, any P25 trunking radio should be able to do voice talkgroups on any P25 system. They may be able to use some of the newer Harris radios if they flash them. Whether they do or not, I don't know.

Word is Manchester did by their own core, but is incompatible with Nashua's. I can't verify that though. Manchester was going to spend the money for a new system regardless of who they went with.

Nashua's system is partially on-line with schools, DPW, Wastewater, etc using it now. Fire & Police (as of last week) were still on the old system.

idle00955 · Feb 1, 2016

Yes that all makes. I figured they would spend the money to upgrade. It makes since to go motorola P25 and get the APX 7000 since they can now work with the rest of the State. It sucks for people like me that want to listen to Manchester because Motorola Trunking systems are hard to get to work right in a real two way radio. Scanners work fine. I figured when they build the new PD they would of used the P25 and upgrade then.

jmarcel66 · Feb 10, 2016

idle00955 said:
Yes that all makes. I figured they would spend the money to upgrade. It makes since to go motorola P25 and get the APX 7000 since they can now work with the rest of the State. It sucks for people like me that want to listen to Manchester because Motorola Trunking systems are hard to get to work right in a real two way radio. Scanners work fine. I figured when they build the new PD they would of used the P25 and upgrade then.

While the APX series is becoming a common replacement, most of the state (on the fire side) is still using the XTS2500 and Kenwood TK-5210 models. The police side maybe closer to 50/50, but there are still many 2500's and even XTS3000's still in service.

The rest of the state is simple P25 compatible, so any of the radios out there (Kenwood, Harris, Moto, etc) work.

garys · Feb 18, 2016

Sharing the core would have made sense, but who knows why Manchester would want their own?

As far as Nashua talk groups, is there any indication that they are using the divide by 16 formula for the new talk groups?

jmarcel66 said:
Word is Manchester did by their own core, but is incompatible with Nashua's. I can't verify that though. Manchester was going to spend the money for a new system regardless of who they went with.

Nashua's system is partially on-line with schools, DPW, Wastewater, etc using it now. Fire & Police (as of last week) were still on the old system.

ecps92 · Feb 18, 2016

As for Nashua - YES they are following in the direct conversion of the TG
As did Boston, Cambridge and Massport
Nashua NH Trunk System - Scan New England Wiki

garys said:
Sharing the core would have made sense, but who knows why Manchester would want their own?

As far as Nashua talk groups, is there any indication that they are using the divide by 16 formula for the new talk groups?

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