LACoFD Q51??

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Read a rumor that Universal is building a new station for FS 51, and that the new station will house the current units assigned in addition to a Quint that will not go off property. Station "should" be completed in 6 months or so. Any truth to this??

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Not sure about the timing, but yes as part of the Universal City redevelopment project an expanded fire station 51 was to be completed.

County will staff a tiller-quint at the station, while LAFD will obtain an additional rescue ambulance for automatic response basis to be housed at station 86.

LA City also has an option to build an additional station of its own eventually. A 1-acre plot of land on eastern city of the project (off Barham) will be made available to the city.

Additionally Universal will allow both County and LA City room to place new repeaters or radio sites if they desire at the project.
 

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Because 24% of the expanded Universal property is in LA City.

Same goes for police services - LAPD will have responsibility for providing police services to the LA City portions, while those areas detached to the County would be serviced by an (expanded) LASD Universal City substation.

As part of the enlarged development project, LACoFD + LAFD + Burbank entered into a new automatic aid agreement defining responses to the entire property.
 

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So is the station merely just being expanded? Or is it being moved elsewhere on the property?. Would Quint 51 be like the engine and only allowed to respond to calls on the Universal Property.
 

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Not sure about the timing, but yes as part of the Universal City redevelopment project an expanded fire station 51 was to be completed.

County will staff a tiller-quint at the station, while LAFD will obtain an additional rescue ambulance for automatic response basis to be housed at station 86.

LA City also has an option to build an additional station of its own eventually. A 1-acre plot of land on eastern city of the project (off Barham) will be made available to the city.

Additionally Universal will allow both County and LA City room to place new repeaters or radio sites if they desire at the project.

Thanks for the info.

The LAFD station is in addition to 76's, or a replacement for 76's?

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So is the station merely just being expanded? Or is it being moved elsewhere on the property?. Would Quint 51 be like the engine and only allowed to respond to calls on the Universal Property.

I would bet it is part of the contract. With all the expansion for Harry Poter that is going on at Universal Hollywood they need a truck company on site. LACoFD loves their tillered quints. Also always good to have some more pumping apparatus there too.
 

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I bet they are just adding a bay to the side of the station where the single bay is where they keep the engine. The doula door side is only deep enough for the squad and patrol. It has been a long time since I was there but found some photos of the new station when it was given the 51 number to replace 60.
 

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The current station was built to house a TDA. The Westmost part of the apparatus floor goes all the way to the back. Last time I was there, the Universal Studios mobile command post was parked in that slot, and the patrol parked in front of that. They can't expand that station, the exterior wall is actually part of the Jurrasic Park ride.
 

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I talked to the guys at 76 and 86 and no one knows anything about a new or replacment fire station or additional ambulance staffing.

They should go read LA City documents. Its all in the ongoing city council development reports including Universal kicking in $180,000 as one time ambulance purchase cost and offering the 1-acre land option for LAFD for build a new station on.

The executive summary of the LA City portion of the agreement it states:

Prior to the issuance of the first Certificate of Occupancy for net new development
exceeding 50,000 square feet in the City portion of the Project Site, the Applicant or
its successor shall provide funds not to exceed $180,000 for acquisition of a Fire
Department rescue ambulance to be housed at Fire Station 86. The Applicant shall
additionally offer to dedicate to the City of Los Angeles approximately 1 acre of land
in the southeastern portion of the Project Site for use by the City of Los Angeles for
construction of a potential new fire station by the Fire Department.


Some words about LACo station

When Los Angeles County provides to Fire Station 51 the tiller-quint pursuant to
Mitigation Measure K.1-59 and the City Fire Department obtains the rescue ambulance
pursuant to Mitigation Measure K.1-2, the City Fire Department and County Fire
Department shall agree upon use of their respective equipment on an automatic response
basis pursuant to a mutually acceptable automatic aid agreement.
The City of Los Angeles will continue to have responsibility for providing fire protection
services to the City portions of the Project. Those areas detached to the County would
be serviced by the Los Angeles County Fire Department, which, as noted above,
currently has a fire station on the Project Site.


This updated automatic aid agreement was executed already and now includes Burbank FD as well whom will respond with two engine companies, one truck, and one battalion chief to a structure fire incident, and one Hazardous Materials Task Force to a hazardous materials incident at the new property.
 

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The existing station 51 will fit a tillered quint.

The quint may fit but it makes me wonder if the living quarters is now too small with the addition of 4 people per day. This may be why a new station is being built.
 

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The quint may fit but it makes me wonder if the living quarters is now too small with the addition of 4 people per day. This may be why a new station is being built.

It would take longer than 6 months to build a station. Never seen the dorm/rooms for the station but most station that have rooms there two beds to a room. They could just double up in the rooms and have to make their beds for each shift. Even if the have 6 rooms right now, Capts each get their own room, Paramedics, Enginers, engine ff's, and truck ff's pair up. I always like the old dorm style stations. Everyone hangs out together more and not just have their own tv in their room and go hide when in the evening.
 

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They should go read LA City documents. Its all in the ongoing city council development reports including Universal kicking in $180,000 as one time ambulance purchase cost and offering the 1-acre land option for LAFD for build a new station on.

The executive summary of the LA City portion of the agreement it states:

Prior to the issuance of the first Certificate of Occupancy for net new development
exceeding 50,000 square feet in the City portion of the Project Site, the Applicant or
its successor shall provide funds not to exceed $180,000 for acquisition of a Fire
Department rescue ambulance to be housed at Fire Station 86. The Applicant shall
additionally offer to dedicate to the City of Los Angeles approximately 1 acre of land
in the southeastern portion of the Project Site for use by the City of Los Angeles for
construction of a potential new fire station by the Fire Department.


Some words about LACo station

When Los Angeles County provides to Fire Station 51 the tiller-quint pursuant to
Mitigation Measure K.1-59 and the City Fire Department obtains the rescue ambulance
pursuant to Mitigation Measure K.1-2, the City Fire Department and County Fire
Department shall agree upon use of their respective equipment on an automatic response
basis pursuant to a mutually acceptable automatic aid agreement.
The City of Los Angeles will continue to have responsibility for providing fire protection
services to the City portions of the Project. Those areas detached to the County would
be serviced by the Los Angeles County Fire Department, which, as noted above,
currently has a fire station on the Project Site.


This updated automatic aid agreement was executed already and now includes Burbank FD as well whom will respond with two engine companies, one truck, and one battalion chief to a structure fire incident, and one Hazardous Materials Task Force to a hazardous materials incident at the new property.

Very interesting!! Thanks for the info.
 

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As part of the County 2016/2017 budget proposal there is additional funding for "expanded operations at Fire Station 51 to provide truck services to Universal City."
 
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