Columbia County

I heard that Columbia County has a new Motorola radio system. Does anyone have any details on the system and frequencies?

It's VHF, and I don't think it's trunking.

I heard on another thread that it may be analog and that this was one frequency pair they were testing with:

161.8375 MHz. DCS 031 - repeater output
157.2375 MHz. DCS 031 - repeater input

Any details on other frequencies?

Nobody is licensed on 161.8375 nor 157.2375 In Columbia County testing or not i doubt its them. I see no new frequency's for the County.....there is a lot of Fire/Rescue that have received new High band licenses with in the county . maybe someone else on board here knows more

Columbia had a waiver request at the FCC a while back for use of Maritime Public Coast channels.
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Found it here
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-15-847A1.pdf
and here is the call sign the channels came from
ULS License - Public Coast Stations, Auctioned License - WQHE714 - MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS, INC.

The Lebanon Valley Task Force repeaters rebroadcast dispatches from low band.

Interesting. Essex County uses these exact same frequencies in P25 mode in their new Motorola Multicast system. In fact they use the same repeater pair on Gore Mountain for their Fire Dispatch multicast channel.

I know it took Essex County quite a while after their system was online to get the frequencies transferred from Motorola and licensed in their name. Their new system is a combination of two different licenses. Their license for the purchased Motorola frequencies is:

ULS License - Public Coast Stations, Auctioned License - WQQH430 - ESSEX, COUNTY OF

And their license for their other frequencies is:

ULS License - Public Safety Pool, Conventional License - WQLI541 - ESSEX, COUNTY OF

I could see interference issues happening if Columbia County is using the same frequencies. At 3,563 ft., Gore Mountain is one of the higher peaks on the southern edge of the Adirondacks and probably has a clear shot from the south.

I heard from a few good sources that Columbia County was doing coverage testing with these frequencies in analog mode the past few weeks and that they purchased these Maritime frequencies from Motorola.

Thunderknight said:

Columbia had a waiver request at the FCC a while back for use of Maritime Public Coast channels.
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Found it here
https://apps.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DA-15-847A1.pdf
and here is the call sign the channels came from
ULS License - Public Coast Stations, Auctioned License - WQHE714 - MOTOROLA SOLUTIONS, INC.

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Columbia County was testing with the 161.8375 MHz/157.2375 MHz repeater pair. The same tests were being conducted on 155.2950 MHz. It was part of the new VHF Fire Radio upgrade plan. Fire Radio will be moved to VHF High, Analog, Conventional Late 2015 - Early 2016. The plan also included tower upgrades at the Blue Hill tower in Livingston, Austerlitz tower, and the New Lebanon tower. A new tower was added in Copake to improve coverage. Currently, EMS/Rescue Squads will stay where they are on VHF High (155.295 - Chatham Rescue & NDP, 155.205 - Greenport Rescue, 151.295 - Valatie Rescue, 155.220 - Community Rescue, 155.325 - EMS Tactical Repeater).

Fire VHF High alerting and dispatch is supposed to begin by the end of the year. VHF High operations will be implemented by Battalion beginning in the Northeast by the beginning of 2016. Low Band operations will continue until the entire system is online and running.

Below is the initial layout of the new system. Channels 1 - 5 will be repeaters, the frequencies will come from the VPC license being transferred from Motorola. Channel 6 will be simplex Interior Fireground Ops only and will also be a VPC frequency, Channels 7 - 11 will be Base/Mobile fireground operations, new frequencies added to KEG594 last year, Channels 12 - 14 will be Fire Police simplex, and Channels 15 - 19 will be the VCALL/VTAC simplex channels

I haven't come across the exact VPC frequencies for Channels 1 - 6 yet or confirmed CTCSS/DCS codes.More to come.

Dispatch 1
Response 2
Command 3
Command 4
Command 5
Interior 6
Fireground 7 151.1675
Fireground 8 153.9350
Fireground 9 154.3850
Fireground 10 155.0475
Fireground 11 159.2700
Fire Police 1 154.1300
Fire Police 2 153.8300
Fire Police 3 154.5700
VCALL 10 155.7525
VTAC 11 151.1375
VTAC 12 154.4525
VTAC 13 158.7375
VTAC 14 159.4725

Just curious if you have any other info on Columbia County Fire if they are going to be analog or digital??
I wrote a friend of mine today who is a Dispatcher a matter of fact to see what the status is and since your post in Nov 2005 which I just found had alot info as far as the layout. Just for your info between the 911 center and the Fire Companies in the County, I have found 54 frequencies in VHF and UHF listed in the FCC data base Looking forward to hear from you. Thanks in advance on your response back.

Mike N2JVE
Niverville,N.Y.

Tacking on the back of this thread:

While I was up in Columbia last weekend, I heard some traffic on 166.25/432 DPL that sounded a lot like CCSO, calls being dispatched in the southern Columbia area. I'm no longer consistently in the area, but I thought I'd pass it on for further investigation by whoever wants to take a listen.

Also hearing CCFD Dispatch on 163.5875/025 DPL.

166.250 is the frequency Schodack and Castleton PD moved to when Dutchess County expanded their 155.415 channel, which can be heard quite well in that area now.

Has anyone put that in the database?

I can't find it at all, which indicates no...

Would you like me to do the submission? I'm happy to do it, but I do wonder if there might be a bunch more useful information you (and many others) have for the database that simply isn't in there. Just let me know - I no longer live in the area, but I can submit a freq if need be.

Do excuse me if I come off as picking at you - I don't intend it, but it does absolutely blow my mind how many daily users of this site have so much information that never makes it into the DB, and only shows up when someone else goes freq hunting a year or two later on the forums. That said, thanks for the info - found WQNI211 in the ULS.

Did you look in the correct county? Schodack is in Rensselaer County, not Columbia.

Sorry, you're correct.

It was hiding when I did my search-by-freq-and-state.

*backs out slowly*

Columbia County Fire KEG-594

Hi All,

In Reference to Columbia County Fire Dispatch testing on VHF High. I Only know of 1 frequency that they are testing on and come's from pretty much the horse's mouth but I had promised not to give the Frequency out right now until they are ready ,but I can tell you it isn't the frequencies that were listed in this forum by dpcain. I haven't been able to confirm the frequencies listed by Nozzlenut83 through my contact yet. Nozzlenut83 are you affiliated with L.F.D.? I found alot of listings in the ULS Database for Columbia County and some other FD in the County on VHF along with UHF. Here is what I have: Also the test Freq. isn't on this list either. Also not sure if the PL on the MURS freq. are right and sorry I got that Online from another source.

Frequency License Type Tone Alpha Tag Description Tag
46.50000 KEG594 BM 110.9 PL ColumFireF1 Dispatch Fire Dispatch
46.44000 KEG594 BM 110.9 PL ColumFireF2 F2 Fire-Tac
46.38000 KEG594 BM 110.9 PL ColumFireF3 F3 Fire-Tac
46.24000 KEG594 M 110.9 PL ColumFGInter Fireground Interior Operations Only Fire-Tac
46.30000 KEG594 M 110.9 PL ColumHMF1 Fireground & Hazmat Fire-Tac
46.28000 BM 110.9 PL ColumHMF2 HazMat F2 Fire-Talk 154.57000 BM 110.9 PL Fire Police1 Fire Police CH-1 Fire-Talk
154.57000 M CSQ Fire Police2 Fire Police CH-2 Fire-Talk
154.13000 KEG594 BM 110.9 PL Fire Police3 Fire Police CH-3 Fire-Talk
154.13000 KEG594 BM CSQ Fire Police4 Fire Police CH-4 Fire-Talk
153.83000 KEG594 M 110.9 PL Fire Police5 Fire Police CH-5 Fire-Talk
153.83000 KEG594 M CSQ Fire Police6 Fire Police CH-6 Fire-Talk
151.82000 M 229.1 PL Fire Ch. 1 Channel 1 Fire-Tac
151.88000 M 229.1 PL Fire Ch. 2 Channel 2 Fire-Tac
151.94000 M 229.1 PL Fire Ch. 3 Channel 3 Fire-Tac
154.57000 M 229.1 PL Fire Ch. 4 Channel 4 Fire-Tac
154.60000 M 229.1 PL Fire Ch. 5 Channel 5 Fire-Tac
151.62500 M 229.1 PL Fire Ch. 6 Channel 6 Fire-Tac

Frequency License Type Tone Alpha Tag Description Tag
151.1675 KEG594
153.9350 KEG594
154.3850 KEG594
155.0475 KEG594
159.2700 KEG594
46.58000 WPNV230 BM 110.9 PL Claverack FD Claverack Fire Ground Fire-Tac
154.83000 WPRY330 M E Chatham FD East Chatham Fire Fire-Talk
46.32000 WPRY330 M E Chatham FD East Chatham Fire Ground Fire-Talk
156.14250 WPRY330 RM LebVallTaskF Lebanon Valley Task Force Repeater Interop
153.95750 WPRY330 M LebVallTaskF Lebanon Valley Task Force Interop
158.9325 WPRY330 M LebVallTaskF LVTF Rptr Input Interop
155.61750 WQMH561 RM 210.7 PL Livingston FD Livingston Fire Repeater Fire-Tac
153.8975 WQMH561 Livingston FD
155.6025 WQMH561 Livingston FD
453.5000 WQMH561 Livingston FD
458.5000 WQMH561 Livingston FD
460.0750 WQMH561 Livingston FD

Frequency License Type Tone Alpha Tag Description Tag
465.0750 WQMH561 Livingston FD
46.54000 M Livingston FD Livingston Fire Ground Fire-Talk
47.48000 M 110.9 PL Niverville FD Niverville Fire Ground LB Fire-Talk
152.9075 WPPE981 RM Nirverville FD Niverville OPS Rptr Fire-Talk
153.2750 WPPE981 RM Niverville FD Niverville FP Fire-Talk
463.2875 WPPE981 Niverville FD
468.2875 WPPE981 Niverville FD
45.92000 SFFC SFCC LB
151.1375 WQVF960 SFFC
154.4525 WQVF960 SFFC
154.7625 WQVF960 SFFC
155.7525 WQVF960 SFFC
158.7375 WQVF960 SFFC
159.2025 WQVF960 SFFC
159.4725 WQVF960 SFFC
453.2125 WQVF960 SFFC
453.4625 WQVF960 SFFC

Frequency License Type Tone Alpha Tag Description Tag
453.7125 WQVF960 SFFC
453.8625 WQVF960 SFFC
458.2125 WQVF960 SFFC
458.4625 WQVF960 SFFC
458.7125 WQVF960 SFFC
458.8625 WQVF960 SFFC
46.58000 WPNV230 Greenport FD Greenport FD LB
155.8800 WPNV230 Greenport FD Greenport FD HB
453.2250 WQEA601 Hudson FD Hudson FD
458.2250 WQEA601 Hudson FD Hudson FD
460.4375 WQEA601 Hudson FD Hudson FD
465.4375 WQEA601 Hudson FD Hudson FD
154.3250 WQTU967 Copake FD Copake FD

Dispatch 161.9375 DPL025
Response 157.275 DPL023
Command 3 157.2125 DPL026
Command 4 157.2375 DPL031
Command 5 157.300 DPL032
Interior 6 157.3375 DPL043
Fireground 7 151.1675 DPL047
Fireground 8 153.935 DPL051
Fireground 9 154.385 DPL054
Fireground 10 155.0475 DPL065
Fireground 11 159.270 DPL071
Fire Police 1 154.130 PL 110.9
Fire Police 2 153.830
Fire Police 3 154.570

As soon as they are licensed and operational I will but em in the DB

If any of these lists are truly official, then the frequencies should be licensed already. I've never seen a government entity set up a frequency matrix before getting coordination and licenses for the frequencies.
Of course, they might not be licensed to Columbia County but to one or more local departments.

Columbia County KEG-594

Hi Dave,

All the Frequencies I listed for Columbia County and Fire Companies in Columbia County came right off the FCC Data base. Take care Dave and tell Lee I said Hi and BTW Merry Xmas !!!!!!

Mike N2JVE

Columbia County KEG-594

Dave,

I misspoke, The MURS frequencies with PL of 229.1 I found somewhere online and not in the FCC Database but everything else was in the FCC Database. Sorry for the mistake....

Mike N2JVE
Niverville,N.Y.

DaveNF2G said:

If any of these lists are truly official, then the frequencies should be licensed already. I've never seen a government entity set up a frequency matrix before getting coordination and licenses for the frequencies.
Of course, they might not be licensed to Columbia County but to one or more local departments.

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Correct me if I'm wrong. But wasn't it already stated that the freqs were licensed to Motorola, and are being transferred to Columbia County?