Recent DMR Finds

Hi all,

Just spent a week in Crested Butte, Copper Mountain and Denver over the holidays in your beautiful state. I want to share a few DMR finds that I don't believe are part of the database yet.

Denver

854.9125 - Connect Plus Network 486 Site 2, Color Code 1, Neighbor Site: 1, 3, 5, 6, 7
463.6375 - Connect Plus Network 233 Site 1, Color Code 11
463.41875 - Nexedge Network L286, RAN 1
462.1375 - Nexedge Network L38, RAN 1
454.2750 - Connect Plus Network 109 Site 12, Color Code 1
454.2500 - Connect Plus Network 109 Site 12, Color Code 1, Neighbor Sites: 10, 11, 13, 18, 20
454.1750 - Connect Plus Network 109 Site 18, Color Code 1, Neighbor Sites: 10, 12, 13
454.1000 - Connect Plus Network 109 Site 10, Color Code 1, Neighbor Sites: 11, 12, 15, 18
451.00625 - Connect Plus Network 231 Site 1, Color Code 1
450.125 - Connect Plus Network 231 Site 1, Color Code 1
152.7125 - Connect Plus Network 256 Site 3, Color Code 1, Neighbor Sites: 1, 2, 4, 5
152.9225 - Nexedge Network L37, RAN 1, Neighbor Sites

Copper Mountain
854.8375 - Connect Plus Network 195 Site 1, Color Code 1, Neighbor Sites: 2, 3
855.0625 - Connect Plus Network 195 Site 2, Color Code 1, Neighbor Sites: 1, 3
854.9125 - Connect Plus Network 195 Site 3, Color Code 1, Neighbor Sites: 1, 2
855.2625 - Connect Plus Network 195 Site 3, Color Code 1, Neighbor Sites: 2, 3
855.6625 - Connect Plus Network 195 Site 3, Color Code 1, Neighbor Sites: 2, 3
857.8875 - Connect Plus Network 195 Site 2, Color Code 1, Neighbor Sites: 1, 3
858.8375 - Connect Plus Network 195 Site 3, Color Code 1, Neighbor Sites: 2, 3
858.8875 - Connect Plus Network 195 Site 1, Color Code 1, Neighbor Sites: 2, 3
859.8875 - Connect Plus Network 195 Site 1, Color Code 1, Neighbor Sites: 2, 3

Crested Butte
It appears the Motorola analog trunked system is no longer active, I have logged ski resort traffic on the following frequencies,

855.0375 - Crested Butte Ski Resort, Color Code 1
855.0625 - Crested Butte Ski Resort, Color Code 1

Thanks for the information!

Any objections to removing the Smartnet system for Crested Butte and replacing it with a DMR system?

I would say yes, all staff has 800 MHz MOTOTRBO radios and there is no other 800 MHz systems in Crested Butte except DTRS

I will be there next week for some skiing. I suppose we should assume that any or all of their seven licensed frequencies (855.0125, 855.0375, 855.0625, 855.2875, 855.3125, 856.8125, 857.8325) could be in use, though the database only lists five of these for the old analog system. Any additional information would be welcomed and helpful.
CharlieKe
(BCD436HP and others)

i have both the DMR and Provoice upgrades for my BCD436HP i need to do more scanning and logging then i currently do.

i found a lot of ham dmr repeaters in denver area.

New License for Copper Mountain

YB WQYU577
COPPER MOUNTAIN RESORT TELECOM
[APPLICANT IS ENGAGED IN THE BUSINESS OF OPERATING A SKI RESORT.]
Control Point 1 - 209 TEN MILE CIRCLE, COPPER MOUNTAIN CO 303-968-2882
(link)
01/25/2017 License Issued
1 - SKI PATROL HQ, 3.2 KM SOUTH OF COPPER MOUNTAIN LODGE, COPPER MOUNTAIN (SUMMIT) CO [Structure: Guyed] (map)
[Antenna 1 - HTT: 12.0m, HAAT: 294.2m]
858.8875 FB2 Ant: 1 70p 70e Units: 1 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
859.8875 FB2 Ant: 1 70p 70e Units: 1 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
2 - COPPER MOUNTAIN, CO, SKI PATROL UNION MOUNTAIN, COPPER MOUNTAIN (SUMMIT) CO [Structure: Building with pipe] (map)
[Antenna 1 - HTT: 6.0m, HAAT: 351.1m]
855.5125 FB2 Ant: 1 60p 60e Units: 1 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
857.8875 FB2 Ant: 1 60p 60e Units: 1 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
860.8875 FB2 Ant: 1 60p 60e Units: 1 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
3 - FRISCO (SUMMIT) CO 113.0 km radius around center point (map)
810.5125 MO Ant: 1 35p 50e Units: 1000 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
812.8875 MO Ant: 1 35p 50e Units: 1000 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
813.8875 MO Ant: 1 35p 50e Units: 1000 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
814.8875 MO Ant: 1 35p 50e Units: 1000 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
815.8875 MO Ant: 1 35p 50e Units: 1000 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
4 - (SUMMIT) CO Land mobile control station meeting 20 rule
810.5125 FX1 Ant: 1 35p 50e Units: 10 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
812.8875 FX1 Ant: 1 35p 50e Units: 10 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
813.8875 FX1 Ant: 1 35p 50e Units: 10 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
814.8875 FX1 Ant: 1 35p 50e Units: 10 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
815.8875 FX1 Ant: 1 35p 50e Units: 10 7K60FXD 7K60FXE

Good catch. I have monitored the current DMR system as listed in the database with no issues. This looks like all new frequencies. I wonder if they are building a completely new system or merely expanding what they have now? And of course when? Thanks.

Back to Crested Butte Resort. I have been here for several days and have only heard traffic (DMR) on 855.0375 and 855.0625 as reported by CqDx at the beginning of this thread. I have been conventionally monitoring all seven licensed frequencies off and on and I haven't heard any analog and only DMR traffic on these two frequencies. Those two frequencies appear to be a CAP+ system, per my 436HP (color code 1). I have been unable to get any results with the LCN finder, but with only two frequencies this is easy to sort out (0625 seems to be LCN-1). I am surprised at the use of only two frequencies, if that is in fact the case.
CharlieKe

CharlieKe said:

Back to Crested Butte Resort. I have been here for several days and have only heard traffic (DMR) on 855.0375 and 855.0625 as reported by CqDx at the beginning of this thread. I have been conventionally monitoring all seven licensed frequencies off and on and I haven't heard any analog and only DMR traffic on these two frequencies. Those two frequencies appear to be a CAP+ system, per my 436HP (color code 1). I have been unable to get any results with the LCN finder, but with only two frequencies this is easy to sort out (0625 seems to be LCN-1). I am surprised at the use of only two frequencies, if that is in fact the case.
CharlieKe

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Interesting; I'm guessing they had the 800 MHz frequencies for some time, starting before the 700/800 band was re-allocated to Public Safety.

natedawg1604 said:

Interesting; I'm guessing they had the 800 MHz frequencies for some time, starting before the 700/800 band was re-allocated to Public Safety.

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Not all that surprising. I believe only the NPSPAC channels (806-809/851-854 MHz) are exclusively allocated for public safety use. The rest of the 800 MHz band does allow for other users who are not public safety.

Spitfire8520 said:

Not all that surprising. I believe only the NPSPAC channels (806-809/851-854 MHz) are exclusively allocated for public safety use. The rest of the 800 MHz band does allow for other users who are not public safety.

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Oh I didn't know that. At least in the Denver-Metro area, it appears virtually no private entities established new 800 MHz LMR systems in the last 5-10 years.

152.210 and 152.435 DMR DCC:1 TG:6000 S1 Sounds like RTD contractor.

I've logged that too:

152.4350 DMR Standalone repeater
No close licensees found
ColorCode 1
Slot 1 TG 6000 Bus, Denver area "Is he north or south of I-70"
Slot 2 TG 6000 Bus, Denver area

dodger said:

152.210 and 152.435 DMR DCC:1 TG:6000 S1 Sounds like RTD contractor.

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Another new license for Copper Mountain

ULS License - Business, 806-821/851-866 MHz, Trunked License - WQYW488 - COPPER MOUNTAIN RESORT TELECOM

YB WQYW488
COPPER MOUNTAIN RESORT TELECOM
[APPLICANT IS ENGAGED IN THE BUSINESS OF OPERATING A SKI RESORT.]
Control Point 1 - 209 TEN MILE CIRCLE, COPPER MOUNTAIN CO 303-968-2882
(link)
02/10/2017 License Issued
1 - 3.2 KM SOUTH OF COPPER MOUNTAIN LODGE, COPPER MOUNTAIN (SUMMIT) CO [Structure: Building with antenna on top] (map)
[Antenna 1 - HTT: 12.0m, HAAT: 294.2m]
855.2875 FB2C Ant: 1 75p 110e Units: 1 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
2 - COPPER RESORT OFFICE, COPPER CIRCLE, COPPER MOUNTAIN (SUMMIT) CO [Structure: Building with antenna on top] (map)
[Antenna 1 - HTT: 22.0m, HAAT: -332.2m]
854.9125 FB2C Ant: 1 30p 30e Units: 1 20K0F3E 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
855.9375 FB2C Ant: 1 30p 30e Units: 1 20K0F3E 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
855.6875 FB2C Ant: 1 30p 30e Units: 1 20K0F3E 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
3 - FRISCO (SUMMIT) CO 113.0 km radius around center point (map)
810.2875 MO Ant: 1 100p 100e Units: 1000 20K0F3E 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
809.9125 MO Ant: 1 100p 100e Units: 1000 20K0F3E 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
810.9375 MO Ant: 1 100p 100e Units: 1000 20K0F3E 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
810.6875 MO Ant: 1 100p 100e Units: 1000 20K0F3E 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
855.2875 MO Ant: 1 100p 100e Units: 1000 20K0F3E 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
855.9375 MO Ant: 1 100p 100e Units: 1000 20K0F3E 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
855.6875 MO Ant: 1 100p 100e Units: 1000 20K0F3E 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
854.9125 MO Ant: 1 100p 100e Units: 1000 20K0F3E 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
4 - (SUMMIT) CO Land mobile control station meeting 20 rule
810.2875 FX1 Ant: 1 35p 50e Units: 5 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
809.9125 FX1 Ant: 1 35p 35e Units: 5 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
810.9375 FX1 Ant: 1 35p 35e Units: 5 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
810.6875 FX1 Ant: 1 35p 35e Units: 5 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
5 - COPPER RESORT OFFICE, COPPER CIRCLE, COPPER MOUNTAIN (SUMMIT) CO [Structure: Building with antenna on top] (map)
[Antenna 1 - HTT: 22.0m, HAAT: -332.2m]
854.9125 FB2C Ant: 1 30p 30e Units: 1 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
855.9375 FB2C Ant: 1 30p 30e Units: 1 7K60FXD 7K60FXE
855.6875 FB2C Ant: 1 30p 30e Units: 1 7K60FXD 7K60FXE

CharlieKe said:

Good catch. I have monitored the current DMR system as listed in the database with no issues. This looks like all new frequencies. I wonder if they are building a completely new system or merely expanding what they have now? And of course when? Thanks.

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It looks like Copper Mountain is recovering from some lost paperwork. They have been operating on expired licenses for 1 to 2 years (WPII860 & WQBB875). They were able to relicense a little over half of the frequencies they have been using, but they will need to change several frequencies to comply with their new licenses.

WQYU577 replaces WPII860.

• 855.0625 will be replaced with 855.5125 at Site 2.

WQYW488 replaces WQBB875.

• 854.8375 will be replaced with 855.2875 at Site 1.
• 855.2625 will be replaced with 855.6875 at Site 3.
• 855.6625 will be replaced with 855.9375 at Site 3.

Just something mildly interesting, whoever did the license for WQYW488 duplicated Location #2 and #5. There's some minor emission differences, but everything else is exactly the same.

Quite a number of Hytera XPT systems popping up.

451.9500 - XPT DCC:1
452.3500 - XPT DCC:1
452.3625 - XPT DCC:1
452.6750 - XPT DCC:1
461.8000 - XPT DCC:1 Today
464.0500 - XPT DCC:1 TG 28 Road Flaggers
464.2500 - XPT DCC:1

Odd data from DSD plus on the Network and Site, it changes all the time.