Lackawanna co frequencies

WB3DYE · Jan 16, 2016

Anyone know if these frequencies are active? Also what will they be used for?

And theres the last listing for a repeater---Anyone know whats that's for? Info from FCC database

SALEM MOUNTAIN SALEMM RD AND MO, CARBONDALE (LACKAWANNA) PA [Structure: Tower] (map)
[Antenna 1 - HTT: 60.0m, HAAT: 278.0m]

453.6 FB2 Ant: 1 100p 50e Units: 1 Pagers: 480 11K2F1D 11K2F3E
460.575 FB2 Ant: 1 100p 50e Units: 1 Pagers: 480 11K2F1D 11K2F3E
460.625 FB2 Ant: 1 100p 50e Units: 1 Pagers: 480 11K2F1D 11K2F3E
159.4425 FB Ant: 1 100p 50e Units: 1 11K2F1D 11K2F3E
151.2125 FB Ant: 1 50p 10e Units: 1 11K2F1D 11K2F3E
155.49 FB2 Ant: 1 50p 30e Units: 1 11K2F1D 11K2F3E

Mark · Jan 16, 2016

Looks like County Motorola system upgrade coming Summer 2016..

Did application search on FCC but no new system yet for Lackawanna County Dept. of Emergency Services
Just seems like renewals of older Public Safety conventional VHF/UHF licenses so far..

Daily Dispatch - Pennsylvania News -Lackawanna County to overhaul fire, EMS radio system

Firefighter6940 · Jan 18, 2016

Obviously for now it's just an Analog system.. Wonder if it'll be setup like Luzerne, and Susquehanna counties system with a Dispatch system, and a repeater system for responding units... I wish Wyoming County would do that. It'd help out greatly.

One13Truck · Jan 28, 2016

WB3DYE said:
Anyone know if these frequencies are active? Also what will they be used for?

And theres the last listing for a repeater---Anyone know whats that's for? Info from FCC database

SALEM MOUNTAIN SALEMM RD AND MO, CARBONDALE (LACKAWANNA) PA [Structure: Tower] (map)
[Antenna 1 - HTT: 60.0m, HAAT: 278.0m]

453.6 FB2 Ant: 1 100p 50e Units: 1 Pagers: 480 11K2F1D 11K2F3E
460.575 FB2 Ant: 1 100p 50e Units: 1 Pagers: 480 11K2F1D 11K2F3E
460.625 FB2 Ant: 1 100p 50e Units: 1 Pagers: 480 11K2F1D 11K2F3E
159.4425 FB Ant: 1 100p 50e Units: 1 11K2F1D 11K2F3E
151.2125 FB Ant: 1 50p 10e Units: 1 11K2F1D 11K2F3E
155.49 FB2 Ant: 1 50p 30e Units: 1 11K2F1D 11K2F3E

I don't recognize any of these. I'll have to check the scanner to see if I have any of them in there. If not I'll plug them in to monitor for activity. Can't promise anything though. In my dead spot Lackawanna has been harder and harder to pick up.

I AM very curious to see what kind of upgrades they were talking about though.

One13Truck · Jan 28, 2016

BLS501 said:
Obviously for now it's just an Analog system.. Wonder if it'll be setup like Luzerne, and Susquehanna counties system with a Dispatch system, and a repeater system for responding units... I wish Wyoming County would do that. It'd help out greatly.

Luzerne County 911 is a complete top to bottom fustercluck. But the one and only thing they have done right is their usage of a dispatch channel and repeatered ops channels (although a few channels still need repeaters). Lackawanna runs circles around everything Luzerne does except for Lackawanna's channel allocations.
I've said for years Lackawanna needs to combine fire & EMS dispatching onto one main channel and leave Zone 3 as a county-wide main fire ops channel and Zone 4 as a county-wide main EMS ops channel or for routine calls. Units can also use the other Tac channels already in use for regular or working calls. That would require relocating the hospital paging from Zone 4 to the UHF Med channels or a VHF channel similar to Luzerne's Hospital Primary. But that is also something that should've been done years ago as well.

Whatever will happen later this year I'll be interested to see what they end up doing and what the results are.

alf2109 · Feb 1, 2016

WB3DYE said:
Anyone know if these frequencies are active? Also what will they be used for?

And theres the last listing for a repeater---Anyone know whats that's for? Info from FCC database

SALEM MOUNTAIN SALEMM RD AND MO, CARBONDALE (LACKAWANNA) PA [Structure: Tower] (map)
[Antenna 1 - HTT: 60.0m, HAAT: 278.0m]

453.6 FB2 Ant: 1 100p 50e Units: 1 Pagers: 480 11K2F1D 11K2F3E
460.575 FB2 Ant: 1 100p 50e Units: 1 Pagers: 480 11K2F1D 11K2F3E
460.625 FB2 Ant: 1 100p 50e Units: 1 Pagers: 480 11K2F1D 11K2F3E
159.4425 FB Ant: 1 100p 50e Units: 1 11K2F1D 11K2F3E
151.2125 FB Ant: 1 50p 10e Units: 1 11K2F1D 11K2F3E
155.49 FB2 Ant: 1 50p 30e Units: 1 11K2F1D 11K2F3E

159. 4425- Currently labeled County Ops 1, limited use at this time until the new fire/EMS hardware is in place.

151.2125- Currently labeled Field Ops 1, 151.4675 currently labeled Field Ops 2, limited use I'm sure for the same reason.

Those UHF freqs I believe have been around for a long time. I understand they were originally planned as a replacement for the PD zones.

With Motorola Solutions' foot in the door look for some much needed changes in the county. Don't envision a trunked system in the near term- the price is out of the question for the county.

One13Truck · Feb 6, 2016

That makes sense for the UHF. Since Scranton went to UHF I can see how they would slowly try to transition everyone.

I'll have to plug in the VHF to monitor just in case for now and be ready for whatever they do in the future. I can see how it would be better to not do the trunked system due to cost. Of course those sales people are good with the sweet talk. The commissioners aren't exactly the brightest so the sales people may find their latest suckers. No matter what it'll be interesting to see what they do as far as the radio upgrades.

Any ideas on the 155.49?

WB3DYE · Feb 6, 2016

Lackawanna co

I heard some where along the line that the repeater on 155.490 was supposed to be for the Sheriffs operations.

One13Truck · Feb 6, 2016

I should've checked the databases. It is listed there as the Sheriff's (future).

One13Truck · Feb 8, 2016

What about Scranton Fire? How long have they had a second channel? What is their plans for using it? I heard a call today for a reported structure fire where Car 21 told everyone to stay on channel 1. Will they remain on the main channel for routine calls and switch to it for working incidents or are they just winging it?

WB3DYE · Feb 12, 2016

Scranton Fire

During a major fire in Scranton recently they directed all operations to channel 2--453.200
Its a repeater.

Steveradio · Feb 12, 2016

460.5750 is Monroe County Fire West DPL664
460.6250 is Monroe County Fire South DPL664

Not sure why they would issues a frequency to a county right next to each other, too me lately the Co-ordination has been not that great in the area for us.

Curious to see how well the system works although Monroe County new Ems 155.400 gets blown away by Hunterdon County NJ all the time.

One13Truck · Feb 14, 2016

Steveradio said:
460.5750 is Monroe County Fire West DPL664
460.6250 is Monroe County Fire South DPL664

Not sure why they would issues a frequency to a county right next to each other, too me lately the Co-ordination has been not that great in the area for us.

Curious to see how well the system works although Monroe County new Ems 155.400 gets blown away by Hunterdon County NJ all the time.

I'm not sure. Honestly I didn't even notice they shared those with Monroe. Ironically though I seem to pick up less and less of Monroe as time goes by. When they were on low band I got them as good or better than some of the Luzerne areas. Now I can barely get the dispatch and on rare occasions get a Fire Central or Fire South job.
I've also had issues with Monroe's Fire North because it shares the same frequency But different PLs as LA Ambulance. I'm not sure how that hasn't caused issues since LA has quite the strong signal.

Steveradio · Feb 14, 2016

working in the western part of Monroe normally have Fire West 460.575 and Fire North 453.075 in my radios they since added a new Fire Central 453.5250 so not sure if they have coverage problems with the radios they use but know trying to pick up other stations such as Stroud Regional Police and Pocono Township are sketchy depending on location.

Cant even hear Fire North East or South stations, may be a mutual aid type frequency. Check surrounding counties as well.

KC3ECJ · Feb 22, 2016

Last night(early morning?) a Dickson City PD officer complained about the coverage in the Viewmont Mall.

Does Dickson City PD have access to the Scranton PD UHF frequencies?

Those would be better for penetrating the building.

alf2109 · Feb 23, 2016

DCPD is not one of the handful of bordering depts with secondary uhf radios and all that do only have them in car.

KC3ECJ · Feb 25, 2016

So they have monoband radios?

Eek!

alf2109 · Feb 26, 2016

The only ones running dual band radios now are PSP.
Spending more than a couple of hundred dollars on a radio is out of play for most public safety agencies. Cheap is good in their minds.
Interop? Don't need it.
Gold badges, white helmets, kill brain cells.

riflemin · Feb 26, 2016

Time for change

I got into scannng and ham radio in 1977, when Scranton was on VHF. I think SPD went UHF in '78. Never understood why. This caused me to buy my first real scanners! SFD was on 170.150, and skip frm Philly FD was common in summer months.
Sadly Scranton and Lackawanna dispatchers seemed not to "interop" even though they were only a few feet apart in the Courthouse basement. And the frequencies they use haven't changed much!
For 8 years I enjoyed listening and all in all they did a decent job.

riflemin · Feb 27, 2016

Dual band

alf2109 said:
The only ones running dual band radios now are PSP.
Spending more than a couple of hundred dollars on a radio is out of play for most public safety agencies. Cheap is good in their minds.
Interop? Don't need it.
Gold badges, white helmets, kill brain cells.

Many moons ago when dual banders were just intro'd for hams, I ended up carrying three hts when on duty (security at a Texas Univ). 1 VHF for PD interop, 2 UHF for campus, 3 dual band for ham. I think only one type accepted dual band ht was available for an astronomical price.
Currently wouldnt one of those el-cheapo Chinese dual-band radios work for backup? I think they are type accepted. Sure wish they were available back in the day. On duty, I beat the heck outa my Icom dual band handi back then. It could TX out of band, just not legal. (BTW purchased from dealer in Scranton!)

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