Brevard County South Tower

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The south tower is now down. The system has moved to the South Simulcast system with towers in Palm Bay and Barefoot Bay being in the simulcast. As far as I can tell the Melbourne tower is still up and running. So let's go and find those new frequencies and what LCN order they belong in. HAPPY HUNTING!
 

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Yep! I'm still picking up MELB tower just fine as well.

My guess for programming the South Simulcast set-up is however wrong. Radio is locking to the CC,but I'm getting lots of static bursts and mostly missed conversations when TG ID's come up. I used the LCN order on the RR page for Barefoot Bay in my radio.
 

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FCC license information relevant to this change:

License call sign WNWQ632.
Location no. 4 is Palm Bay.
Recent changes to frequencies made at this site.
Delete 000866.12500000
Delete 000866.25000000
Delete 000866.56250000
Delete 000866.58750000
Delete 000866.90000000
Mod 000867.03750000
Delete 000867.15000000
Delete 000867.28750000
Delete 000867.40000000
Delete 000867.53750000
Delete 000867.65000000
Delete 000867.78750000
Delete 000867.90000000
Delete 000868.07500000
Delete 000868.11250000
Delete 000868.37500000
Mod 000868.56250000
Delete 000868.62500000
Delete 000868.81250000
Delete 000868.88750000
Add 000866.90000000
Add 000868.37500000
Add 000866.25000000
Add 000868.07500000
Add 000866.12500000
Add 000866.58750000
Add 000868.81250000
Add 000866.56250000
Add 000867.53750000
Add 000868.62500000


So that should get you started.
 

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Fun..they are just moving right along with this change over..

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TRS

im too far north and work in cocoa..so the south isnt really my listening area...i cant pick it up..
 
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I believe the correct frequencies can be put into a 7100 radios in any order. But scanners require the LCN order. Correct me if I am wrong ElroyJetson.
 

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No sir you are right.

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They must be input into RPM or ProGrammer in correct logical channel number order.

Unless that was changed RECENTLY in radio firmware and the programming software as well.

One of the first things you learn about programming a Harris (whatever...so many brand names in its history) radio is that the LCN order has to be right or you miss calls.

Motorola's radios all worked off a standardized frequency table. For example. 866.0125 might be called channel 801 in the table. The trunking controller would issue a command "Talkgroup 123, go to channel 801" in its language, and the radio has the channel table in it so it goes to the right freqency.

EDACS is different. The controller says "Talkgroup 123, go to the fourth channel in your frequency list" but that frequency list is the one that the programmer entered into RPM or ProGrammer. Neither the trunked controller nor the radio refers to a frequency table.
 

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Thats strange...i have my 7200 with XGP and it works fine..

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The 7200 with XGP may be different from the legacy radio system. You know, that could happen! EDACS is not too far away from being 30 years old.

Maybe they finally decided to update their channel handling protocols. But since I have no direct experience with XGP or the 7200, I can't speak from personal experience.

I can say that up to the 7100and 7300 and RPM 10, what I said is absolutely true.
 

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ElroyJetson is correct they must be in the correct logical channel number as the control channel only transmits the channel number for the talk group to the radio. The radio stores the channel number = frequency . If u didn't have them in correct order when the control channel transmits the channel number the radio would go to the incorrect frequency.

But I have no experience with the 7200 only 7100 and XG-75p
 
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I believe I found the Control Channel as being 852.5375Mhz with a Site # of 13. It looks like there may be 20 frequencies assigned to this system.
 

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Oh yeah....something's wacky with the FCC data that I posted a few posts above.

Remember rebanding a few years ago? All 800 MHz public safety allocations were moved down 15 MHz so all site frequencies should be in the 851-853 range.

It's like that page I found is a historical relic, but I got it right from the FCC's site. ODD.

I'll try again.

Please IGNORE the frequency information above. It is wrong. All of it.
 

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OK, take 2. Trying again.

Here, THESE should be CORRECT. They're in the right range and I just pulled them from the FCC ULS search done directly at the FCC site, for call sign WNWQ632.

Frequency Loc# Ant# Freq
ID Station
Class Units Paging
Rec. Output
Power Maximum
ERP
000851.15000000 4 1 20 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000851.17500000 4 2 5 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000851.40000000 4 3 5 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000851.53750000 4 1 21 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000851.90000000 4 2 6 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000852.03750000 4 3 6 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000852.13750000 4 1 22 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000852.31250000 4 2 7 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000852.36250000 4 3 7 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000852.53750000 4 1 23 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000852.58750000 4 2 8 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000852.61250000 4 3 8 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000852.78750000 4 1 24 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000852.81250000 4 2 9 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000853.11250000 4 3 9 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000853.13750000 4 1 25 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000853.53750000 4 2 10 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000853.56250000 4 3 10 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000853.58750000 4 1 26 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
000853.81250000 4 2 11 FB2 1 90.000 495.000
 

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Correct frequency range

When Brevard County rebanded about 5-6 years ago, all of the 866-869 MHz frequencies were vacated and moved 15 MHz lower. Public Safety in Florida, and likely all over the USA no longer uses 866-869 mHz. The correct frequencies are in the range of 851-854 MHz

Thanks to everyone posting these important updates.
 

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The south simulcast is under call sign WQSY971.
 
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Nice catch! I was looking for that but hadn't found it yet.

Barefoot Bay simulcast site frequencies as per the FCC right now:

000851.15000000 3 1 1 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000851.17500000 3 2 1 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000851.40000000 3 3 1 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000851.53750000 3 1 2 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000851.90000000 3 2 2 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000852.03750000 3 3 2 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000852.13750000 3 1 3 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000852.31250000 3 2 3 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000852.36250000 3 3 3 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000852.53750000 3 1 4 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000852.58750000 3 2 4 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000852.61250000 3 3 4 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000852.78750000 3 1 5 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000852.81250000 3 2 5 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000853.11250000 3 3 5 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000853.13750000 3 1 6 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000853.53750000 3 2 6 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000853.56250000 3 3 6 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000853.58750000 3 1 7 FB2 1 100.000 234.000
000853.81250000 3 2 7 FB2 1 100.000 234.000


This should be what is currently being used in the south section of the county.

Again, this is not logical channel order.
 
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