700 MHz IO

The Nationwide 700 MHz IO channels are being put in all of the SAFE-T radios. Is there a scanner out there yet that can monitor them?

They are just conventional P25 channels. Some may be analog. Any scanner that will cover the 700MHz band and will do P25 will work.

mmckenna said:

They are just conventional P25 channels. Some may be analog. Any scanner that will cover the 700MHz band and will do P25 will work.

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700Mhz Interoperability channels are Digital Only, No Analog. That said any scanner that does 700Mhz and digital will work

Thanks for the replies guys

Shouldn't there be a FCC license issued to the state for the 700 interop channels? I can't seem to find anything on the FCC database showing a current license for the state in the 700 interop band. Maybe I need to look under individual counties rather than state.

Jeff.

If it's for mobile/portable use, they are licensed by rule (no specific license needed) for public safety agencies.
Base stations still require a regular license.

JStemann said:

Shouldn't there be a FCC license issued to the state for the 700 interop channels? I can't seem to find anything on the FCC database showing a current license for the state in the 700 interop band.

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Most states have a 700 MHz State License. Indiana cancelled theirs for some reason.
ULS License - Public Safety 700 MHZ Band-State License License - WPTZ769 - Indiana, State of

The 700 state license is totally unrelated to the interop channels.

Dearborn County has a license from the FCC data base for 700Mhz

All the new APX'es have the nationwide 700/800 MHz Interops in the codeplugs.

Starter Codeplug -

Channel SMA RM1 RM2 RM3 RM4 EVT EMS 8IO I7A I7B I7C I7D
1 SW-CALL A-MA1 E-MA1 I-MA1 M-MA1 EVENT-N-1 HOSP-N-DISP 8CALL90 7CALL50 7MOB59 7CALL70 7MOB79
2 SW-MA1 A-MA2 E-MA2 I-MA2 M-MA2 EVENT-N-2 HOSP-N-OPS1 8CALL90D 7CALL50D 7MOB59D 7CALL70D 7MOB79D
3 SW-MA2 A-MA3 E-MA3 I-MA3 M-MA3 EVENT-N-3 HOSP-N-OPS2 8TAC91 7TAC51 7LAW61 7TAC71 7LAW81
4 SW-MA3 A-MA4 E-MA4 I-MA4 M-MA4 EVENT-N-4 HOSP-N-OPS3 8TAC91D 7TAC51D 7LAW61D 7TAC71D 7LAW81D
5 SW-MA4 B-MA1 F-MA1 J-MA1 N-MA1 EVENT-N-5 HOSP-N-OPS4 8TAC92 7TAC52 7LAW62 7TAC72 7LAW82
6 SW-MA5 B-MA2 F-MA2 J-MA2 N-MA2 EVENT-S-1 HOSP-N-OPS5 8TAC92D 7TAC52D 7LAW62D 7TAC72D 7LAW82D
7 SW-MA6 B-MA3 F-MA3 J-MA3 N-MA3 EVENT-S-2 HOSP-S-DISP 8TAC93 7TAC53 7FIRE63 7TAC73 7FIRE83
8 SW-MA7 B-MA4 F-MA4 J-MA4 N-MA4 EVENT-S-3 HOSP-S-OPS1 8TAC93D 7TAC53D 7FIRE63D 7TAC73D 7FIRE83D
9 SW-MA8 C-MA1 G-MA1 K-MA1 O-MA1 EVENT-S-4 HOSP-S-OPS2 8TAC94 7TAC54 7FIRE64 7TAC74 7FIRE84
10 SW-MA9 C-MA2 G-MA2 K-MA2 O-MA2 EVENT-S-5 HOSP-S-OPS3 8TAC94D 7TAC54D 7FIRE64D 7TAC74D 7FIRE84D
11 PROGRAM C-MA3 G-MA3 K-MA3 O-MA3 HOSP-S-OPS4 7TAC55 7MED65 7TAC75 7MED86
12 RGRP C-MA4 G-MA4 K-MA4 O-MA4 HOSP-S-OPS5 7TAC55D 7MED65D 7TAC75D 7MED86D
13 D-MA1 H-MA1 L-MA1 7TAC56 7MED66 7TAC76 7MED87
14 D-MA2 H-MA2 L-MA2 7TAC56D 7MED66D 7TAC76D 7MED87D
15 D-MA3 H-MA3 L-MA3 7GTAC57 7GTAC77
16 D-MA4 H-MA4 L-MA4 7GTAC57D 7GTAC77D


Channel Alias Receive Freq Rec PL mode PL freq Transmit freq TX PL mode TX PL tone TX PL code
8CALL90 851.0125 PL 156.7 806.0125 PL 156.7 5A
8CALL90D 851.0125 CSQ 851.0125 PL 156.7 5A
8TAC91 851.5125 PL 156.7 806.5125 PL 156.7 5A
8TAC91D 851.5125 CSQ 851.5125 PL 156.7 5A
8TAC92 852.0125 PL 156.7 807.0125 PL 156.7 5A
8TAC92D 852.0125 CSQ 852.0125 PL 156.7 5A
8TAC93 852.5125 PL 156.7 807.5125 PL 156.7 5A
8TAC93D 852.5125 CSQ 852.5125 PL 156.7 5A
8TAC94 853.0125 PL 156.7 808.0125 PL 156.7 5A
8TAC94D 853.0125 CSQ 853.0125 PL 156.7 5A

Zone 9 Zone 10 Zone 11 Zone 12
7CALL50 769.24375 799.24375 7MOB59 770.89375 800.89375 7CALL70 773.25625 803.25625 7MOB79 774.50625 804.50625
7CALL50D 769.24375 769.24375 7MOB59D 770.89375 770.89375 7CALL70D 773.25625 773.25625 7MOB79D 774.50625 774.50625
7TAC51 769.14375 799.14375 7LAW61 770.39375 800.39375 7TAC71 773.10625 803.10625 7LAW81 774.00625 804.00625
7TAC51D 769.14375 769.14375 7LAW61D 770.39375 770.39375 7TAC71D 773.10625 773.10625 7LAW81D 774.00625 774.00625
7TAC52 769.64375 799.64375 7LAW62 770.49375 800.49375 7TAC72 773.60625 803.60625 7LAW82 774.35625 804.35625
7TAC52D 769.64375 769.64375 7LAW62D 770.49375 770.49375 7TAC72D 773.60625 773.60625 7LAW82D 774.35625 774.35625
7TAC53 770.14375 800.14375 7FIRE63 769.89375 799.89375 7TAC73 774.10625 804.10625 7FIRE83 773.50625 803.50625
7TAC53D 770.14375 770.14375 7FIRE63D 769.89375 769.89375 7TAC73D 774.10625 774.10625 7FIRE83D 773.50625 773.50625
7TAC54 770.64375 800.64375 7FIRE64 769.99375 799.99375 7TAC74 774.60625 804.60625 7FIRE84 773.85625 803.85625
7TAC54D 770.64375 770.64375 7FIRE64D 769.99375 769.99375 7TAC74D 774.60625 774.60625 7FIRE84D 773.85625 773.85625
7TAC55 769.74375 799.74375 7MED65 769.39375 799.39375 7TAC75 773.75625 803.75625 7MED86 773.00625 803.00625
7TAC55D 769.74375 769.74375 7MED65D 769.39375 769.39375 7TAC75D 773.75625 773.75625 7MED86D 773.00625 773.00625
7TAC56 770.24375 800.24375 7MED66 769.49375 799.49375 7TAC76 774.25625 804.25625 7MED87 773.35625 803.35625
7TAC56D 770.24375 770.24375 7MED66D 769.49375 769.49375 7TAC76D 774.25625 774.25625 7MED87D 773.35625 773.35625
7GTAC57 770.99375 800.99375 7GTAC77 774.85625 804.85625
7GTAC57D 770.99375 770.99375 7GTAC77D 774.85625 774.85625



That didnt translate as pretty as I had hoped.....

Thanks for the info, everyone. I thought there could be some type of blanket license, but didn't know of the "license by rule".

In a somewhat related question, how likely do any of you think these channels will be used? Are any of you aware of any additional training being provided to the users of the radios so they are aware of the added channels?

As an example, a couple of years ago, some officers found a "new" channel (in their radios) they could use as a talk around, off the trunked system. They checked with a few people and found they weren't being heard by dispatch or on their scanners. Kinda funny when I called one of them & let him know their "private" channel was the NPS Calling channel. Then I had to explain what it and the other NPS channels were for....My point being, these officers were completely clueless about the NPSPAC channels, they either didn't receive the training or slept through it. I can only imagine the 700 interop channels will go mostly unused & unnoticed until someone stumbles on them.

Jeff.

Full training on operations and capabilities of the APX'es is being given. All the State agencies are being taught that they have that capability, but the only time it will be used is if an specific agency puts it on the OPS listings for specific uses, like say an NMFZ event causes massive issues down in Southern Tier of IN.... and they need more than just the 8Call/8Tacs for operations with outside agencies that have 700 capabilities, and other agencies within the State. Or say something huge happens in Lake County requiring an massive response. For Fed IO they will need to patch into the SAFE-T, or set up bridges to the Fed/Non Fed UHF/VHF freqs since the APX'es issued thus far are 6000's and a few 7000's NOT the 8000's which are ALL BAND.

Thanks for the info, Milf.

Jeff.

700

What is the 700mhz I can in my scanner and tag

They are all listed here with the PL/DPL tones and P25 NAC's.
National Interoperability Scanner Frequencies and Radio Frequency Reference

Scroll down to 700 MHz National Interoperability

mmckenna said:

Any scanner that will cover the 700MHz band and will do P25 will work.

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Can any scanner cover these?

My bcd996p2 only accepts four digits after the decimal whereas the 700MHz channels are five digits after the decimal.

crazy_19 said:

Can any scanner cover these?

My bcd996p2 only accepts four digits after the decimal whereas the 700MHz channels are five digits after the decimal.

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Your 996 will do fine, the band pass is wide enough on pretty much any scanner that you can just drop that 5th digit.

For what it's worth, I doubt there will be much traffic to be heard on 700 here in Indiana. Maybe in some big event that would involve the Feds. I'm not saying you shouldn't program them, just don't expect much traffic on them.

Jeff.