Bexar County (New Military Systems With 3D6 SID)

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Dark_Side

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United States Air Force (3D6)

Fort Sam Houston Site-004

System ID: 3D6
RFSS 001
SITE: 004
WACN BEE00
FLAVOR PHASE is 1 but returns Phase-2

Voice Seen
"04-1890","c",406.56250,"04-1890",415.56250,0,0
"04-1922","a",406.96250,"04-1922",415.96250,0,0
"04-1945","a",407.25000,"04-1945",416.25000,0,0
"04-1994","a",407.86250,"04-1994",416.86250,0,0
"04-2013","v",408.10000,"04-2013",417.10000,0,15
"04-2136","v",409.63750,"04-2136",418.63750,0,17
"04-2156","v",409.88750,"04-2156",418.88750,0,16

Neighbors
103,"T0103",3d6,"04-1990",Edited Area
106,"T0106",3d6,"04-1858",'''''''''''
101,"T0101",c31,"00-0397",'''''''''''
102,"T0102",c31,"00-0637",'''''''''''


Talkgroups
4051 Fort Sam MP Disp
3901 Lackland SP Disp
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United States Air Force (3D6)

Randolph AFB Site-003


System ID: 3D6
SITE: 003
WACN BEE00
FLAVOR PHASE is 1 but returns Phase-2

Voice Seen
"04-1963","v",407.47500,"04-1963",416.47500,0,4
"04-1990","c",407.81250,"04-1990",416.81250,0,0
"04-2015","v",408.12500,"04-2015",417.12500,0,5
"04-2087","a",409.02500,"04-2087",418.02500,0,0
"04-2110","a",409.31250,"04-2110",418.31250,0,0
"04-2125","v",409.50000,"04-2125",418.50000,0,3
"04-2177","v",410.15000,"04-2177",419.15000,0,3
"04-2210","a",410.56250,"04-2210",410.56250,1,0
"04-2226","v",410.76250,"04-2226",410.76250,1,4

Neighbors
104,"T0104",3d6,"04-1890",Edited Area
105,"T0105",3d6,"04-1854",'''''''''''
107,"T0107",c31,"00-0412",'''''''''''
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This Tower is in Bexar But Unknown Tower Name

System ID: 3D6
SITE: 005
WACN BEE00
FLAVOR PHASE is 1 but returns Phase-2


Voice Seen
"04-1854","c",406.11250,"04-1854",415.11250,0,0
"04-2034","a",408.36250,"04-2034",417.36250,0,0
"04-2130","a",409.56250,"04-2130",418.56250,0,0
"04-2146","v",409.76250,"04-2146",418.76250,0,1
"04-2178","a",410.16250,"04-2178",419.16250,0,0

Neighbors
103,"T0103",3d6,"04-1990",Edited Area
107,"T0107",c31,"00-0412",Edited Area


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This Tower is in Bexar But Unknown Tower Name

System ID: 3D6
SITE: 006
WACN BEE00
FLAVOR PHASE is 1 but returns Phase-2

Voice Seen
"04-1858","c",406.16250,"04-1858",415.16250,0,0
"04-1906","a",406.76250,"04-1906",415.76250,0,0
"04-1970","a",407.56250,"04-1970",416.56250,0,0
"04-2018","a",408.16250,"04-2018",417.16250,0,0

Neighbors
104,"T0104",3d6,"04-1890",Edited Area
101,"T0101",c31,"00-0397",'''''''''''
102,"T0102",c31,"00-0637",'''''''''''
107,"T0107",c31,"00-0412",'''''''''''
 
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Michael-SATX

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Here is the list to fill in those "Unknown Sites" ;)

The site numbers so far match up the same on the new system ID as on the old system ID.

001 (1) Lackland AFB Bexar
002 (2) Medina Annex Bexar
003 (3) Randolph AFB Bexar
004 (4) Fort Sam Houston Bexar
005 (5) Camp Bullis Bexar
006 (6) Central Bexar
007 (7) VA Hospital Bexar

However, the Talkgroup ID's are different and thus begins the long process to ID TG's on new system.
I monitored very late and was only able to write down a few talkgroups. It's best to reprogram everything.
I took a shortcut and and edited my base Pro-197 from MOT VHF/UHF w/Offsets to just P25 Auto mode.
I will leave my HP-1E in trunking discovery mode to record and playback traffic to assist with new TGID's.
I heard Randolph Security Forces CH-1 on new TG 3916 a few times in the clear buy mostly encrypted.
As the "Dark_Side" posted I also monitored on Ft Sams site TG 4051 Fort Sam MP Disp. Also, the
new TG 3901 LAFB SP Disp which was being simulcasted on the old LAFB TRS S#1 48288 LAFB PD1
was heard while parked accross from SAMMC had 1 scanner on new 3D6 S4 and 1 scanner on bc31 S1.
 

nd5y

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You guys might want to see if any of the new talkgroups match up with existing ones when multiplied by 16.
For example if 3901 Lackland SP Disp was the same as 62416 on the old system.
 

jbsarandolphmonitor

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Are there new control channels for the Lackland AFB and Medina Annex sites? I can't see them from the Randolph site.

Thanks
Don
 

jbsarandolphmonitor

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This is from the Randolph site. I am not using the tables. I am just running it on auto.

#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
01,762.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
02,851.00625,0.01250,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
03,762.00625,0.01250,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
04,382.93750,0.01250,9.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,380.00000,0.01250,10.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
06,136.00000,0.01250,5.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1

Don
 

NC5267

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Still can't get a control channel from Ft. Sam. Use to be able to from my location. I am getting voice over 410.550. Shows Camp Bullis on the old system but I can't get that control channel either.
 

jbsarandolphmonitor

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I could hear the Fort Sam cc and the Camp Bullis cc would come and go. Now I can't hear any of them. The radio display shows 99% decode rate for the Randolph site but the CC sound comes and goes. The radio works ok and the sound is good.

Don
 

NC5267

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409.7375, when doing a band search getting what sounds like a digital type sound, maybe Phase 2 audio. Don't have a P2 scanner yet so can't be sure.
 
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