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Motorola Mototrbo All Band Radio?
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I know a few companies that pitched just a dual band VHF/UHF need to Motorola. They were told flat out that Trbo was cheap enough that they should just buy one of each band radio as needed.
Of course, if the industry threw enough money at Motorola, they would probably make one. This was several companies in the oil and gas industry. They still bought thousands of Trbo radios.
Of course, if the industry threw enough money at Motorola, they would probably make one. This was several companies in the oil and gas industry. They still bought thousands of Trbo radios.
Project25_MASTR
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Its far cheaper to just built a system out for all bands needed at each location.
Even if Motorola offered it, it is likely to be only available on Apex portables…so still cheaper to build locations for IPSC across multiple bands.
Now there has been some rumor that a Tier III manufacturer will release a P25 firmware upgrade for their recently released 2nd generation of subscribers but currently that is only for a single band radio with multiple modes. It's cheaper for them to bridge their (dated) P25 subscriber's firmware from the old line to the new DMR line as their old line is a MPT1327 line that had P25 support added when the AMBE 2 chip had already replaced IMBE.
Even if Motorola offered it, it is likely to be only available on Apex portables…so still cheaper to build locations for IPSC across multiple bands.
Now there has been some rumor that a Tier III manufacturer will release a P25 firmware upgrade for their recently released 2nd generation of subscribers but currently that is only for a single band radio with multiple modes. It's cheaper for them to bridge their (dated) P25 subscriber's firmware from the old line to the new DMR line as their old line is a MPT1327 line that had P25 support added when the AMBE 2 chip had already replaced IMBE.
If they did make one it would be in the next line of multi band motorola gear. At this point budget mid level radios is gone. They would consider cost and r&d then other expenses to sales prior to going to it for production. While there is a market in some areas for trbo with public safety it is not as large as the p25 end. A few entities have asked of it. Maybe it will appear but don't expect to see it in any apx 8000, 6000, 4000 etc. It would have to be in a new line with proper hardware capable for multi mode multi band multi board. If it comes it will not be cheap and I can suspect it would be higher then the current APX 8000xe cost with nearly every whistle and bell enabled. Maybe a APX 9000\9500? Who knows. Itell be a new line for sure if it came with a hefty price tag and bulkier then the 8000xe. but I won't hold my breath to see it anytime soon.
Project25_MASTR
Millennial Graying OBT Guy
The apex line is already hardware capable. AMBE 2 vocoder, phase 1 support means the ability to operate on a 4FSK modulation scheme (as C4FM is a 4FSK scheme) and the Phase 2 (which uses a quadrature modulation scheme) support means the transmitter is capable of keying quick enough to support DMR's operation.
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While true we know how business is. Why make money off a firmware update when we can sell a new radio creating new contracts and costs for a agency who jumps on the latest and greatest bandwagon while phasing out a current capable model.
N4KVE
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This is basically what the Moto reps at Apco said last week. They do not want to sell $600 DMR radios to LE. They want to sell $5000+ radios to them. They will not allow APX radios to do DMR even though it is physically possible.
kayn1n32008
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Why do you think a multi band, DMR&P25 would be bulkier than the APX8000?
The hardware in the APX series radios is already capable of DMR. It would only require writing firmware to add DMR capabilities to the radio.
I doubt you'll see an APX8000 flashed for DMR/TRBO but it is technically possible.
But why would M do something as silly as increase profits by selling the same platform at two different price points but with different capabilities?
Oh, wait...they already do that. Some APX models are physically the same as some TRBO models already.
But why would M do something as silly as increase profits by selling the same platform at two different price points but with different capabilities?
Oh, wait...they already do that. Some APX models are physically the same as some TRBO models already.
N4KVE
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I wonder how similar an APX4000 is to a XPR7550?
kayn1n32008
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Wait... you seeing hotel staff with APX4000 now?
N4KVE
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No, saw it at APCO last week. But my friend who works for the city has one on his desk at work. He works for parks, & recreation, & the radio never leaves his desk, so it probably sees less abuse than a hotel radio.
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