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XTS5000 Flashing

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I have a xts5000 m2 that I bought and i'm looking to flash for 9600 baud trunking but I require the flash file if anyone can direct me in locating it or anyone who can perform this, willing to pay, you can private message me or post reply, thanks for any help
 

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I have a xts5000 m2 that I bought and i'm looking to flash for 9600 baud trunking but I require the flash file if anyone can direct me in locating it or anyone who can perform this, willing to pay, you can private message me or post reply, thanks for any help

Not quite as easy as having the flash file, you also have to have a flash key. Both have to be configured specifically for the radio you have in it's current state.
 

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Not quite as easy as having the flash file, you also have to have a flash key. Both have to be configured specifically for the radio you have in it's current state.

Right, and that comes from Motorola.
Before you chase this too far, take a look at prices of used XTS-5000's. Find one that has the flashcode you need, it could be cheaper to buy a used radio with what you need rather than trying to reflash an existing radio.
 

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While we can not talk about magic CPS, whenever I need a different flash code, or FW upgrade, I visit a friend, tell him what flash code I need, & 5 minutes later it's done. This also includes an auto tune on a 3920. There are people on the various Motorola boards who offer this service.
 

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With some of the older types of Mtx Mts you could push a fully loaded codeplug in without any problems I assume these XTS could do the same?
 

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Your options are like mentioned,

1 Buy or trade for another with flashcode you need.
2Find a person to have it re flashed who offers the service which means it'll have to be sent out or unless you find a local with capability.
3 go through the process and see IF motorola will do it. Since it is a eol with extended service model they may nkt do it at all. If your a agency and have a contract with them and have a few hundred they'll do it but for one radio that is eol to them probably not. So your probably back to options 1 and 2.
 

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Option 2. Read some posts on Batlabs. The usual fee for this is $35. For that radio, you don't even need to sent it out. You plug the radio into your computer. The fellow who offers this service connects to your computer via the internet, & remotely "upgrades" the radio. People even offer this service on E-Bay.
 

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Option 2. Read some posts on Batlabs. The usual fee for this is $35. For that radio, you don't even need to sent it out. You plug the radio into your computer. The fellow who offers this service connects to your computer via the internet, & remotely "upgrades" the radio. People even offer this service on E-Bay.

Had this done this way to upgrade the firmware on an Astro Spectra for rebanding. Worked pretty neat but the only issue was I had to open some ports on my firewall to allow remote access to my radio PC. Really the only decent way was since that radio has been EOL'd for a while.
 

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You can still obtain flashes for the XTS5000k via MOL (I actually ordered some the other week) but with their latest shenanigans you will mostly likely have to go through a preferred partner.

There are some other ways that involve non-Motorola approved practices which due to recent events can not be discussed on any US/Canadian based forum. Not to say that there haven't been some security breeches in Schaumburg which have allowed some leaked software out but like I said, unless you work for the depot at Motorola it's not approved.
 

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If you needed an upgrade for a radio involved in any type of public safety application, then for sure, do it the proper way. But if you are using the radio for your hobby, it really doesn't matter if it's "approved". Look at all the radios on that auction site that started off life as basic no display/no keypad radios with basic flashcodes that are now full featured radios that do everything. How did that happen?
 

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DO NOT ASK ME FOR HELP PROGRAMMING YOUR RADIO. NO.
Motorola (and other companies) seem to think that they have the smartest programmers in the world, people they usually just hired off the street, and they're alarmed when within 10 years (more like weeks in some cases) it turns out that other people NOT working for them are every bit as smart as their programmers, or smarter, and are able to break/reverse engineer their most complicated systems made to secure data or at least obscure it. (Security Thru Obscurity, it's the Motorola Method!)

Ultimately, all that security is meant to stop a single bit, in some cases, from being flipped. Or a few bits. If you know your stuff and can trace the movement of data thru the program, any good hacker can, if he puts the time and effort into it, soon start unscrewing things that the program authors intended to be quite inscrutable.

Motorola puts 50 locks on the door that protects the switch that makes a radio do something useful.
A good hacker pulls the hinge pins out, drops the door on the floor, and flips the switch behind it.

The only way to completely end hacking as a useful tool is to fully encrypt the radio right down to the operating system, and even then you'd have to also fully encrypt the computers that connect to it and run any software that works with it. Only end to end encryption has any chance of completely ending hacking as we know it today.
 

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Motorola announced EOL for the 5K at the end of November and is the cut-off to purchase legit flash upgrades. So if you are going to do it through them you might want to place the order as early as possible.
 

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ok thanks for all the useful onfo. I believe that I might have found a way around that using old RSS we are not allowed to discuss openly and it seems to work without bricking the radio
 
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