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KVL4000 Key Retention Question

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I'm finishing up keyloading all of our APX7000 radios... first time using a KVL4000...
Question for those that have done this more than once... Can I leave the KVL unpowered and not lose the keys I have created? One person told me that the keys will be lost if it isn't powered, and one says they won't.
I want to store the KVL in the safe between key changes (we don't have a KMF, so no OTAR... we only have 24 radios, so it's not a big issue), but I don't want to lose the current key if we have to rekey a radio because some idiot took the battery off... (if I lose the current key, I'd have to rekey every single radio, at least that's my understanding)

TNX
 

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I'm finishing up keyloading all of our APX7000 radios... first time using a KVL4000...
Question for those that have done this more than once... Can I leave the KVL unpowered and not lose the keys I have created? One person told me that the keys will be lost if it isn't powered, and one says they won't.
I want to store the KVL in the safe between key changes (we don't have a KMF, so no OTAR... we only have 24 radios, so it's not a big issue), but I don't want to lose the current key if we have to rekey a radio because some idiot took the battery off... (if I lose the current key, I'd have to rekey every single radio, at least that's my understanding)

TNX


As a fail safe I keep a hardcopy in a safe and copies of my keys in a secure smartphone app.

That way the key could not be lost.

Some radios allow direct front panel entry of crypto keys. They cannot be read, just entered.

I guess always have a secure backup available.
 

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I've had my office KVL4K with a dead battery for month or so, yeah we don't have to keyload that often, and it has never dropped the stored keys.
 

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I was issued one of our KVL-4Ks and it had been in storage for a year, cold dead. All keys were still there.

FWIW we never write down any hard copy of keys. Keys are randomized and stored in the KVLs only. No chance of them getting out that way.
 

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I was issued one of our KVL-4Ks and it had been in storage for a year, cold dead. All keys were still there.

FWIW we never write down any hard copy of keys. Keys are randomized and stored in the KVLs only. No chance of them getting out that way.

So you're saying keys on a sticky note under everyone's monitor is a bad idea?
 
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