XTS 3000 programming hardware

topdog1198 · Sep 17, 2017

I've been programming my 5000 for a little while just made the purchase of a 3000 purchase the software now looking for the hardware interface. I see quite a bit of stuff on eBay but don't wish to waste my time buying junk. Does anyone know where I can get the correct rib box and the cable? I've already purchased one off of eBay it doesn't seem to work I keep getting an error message that is not communicating with the radio, so I'm thinking may be a bad boxer cable any suggestions

Thanks in Advance

davidzimmerman · Sep 17, 2017

i still use the HT1000 Cable and Motorola Rib Box i have seen people buy a RIBLESS one never had or tried one.

Project25_MASTR · Sep 17, 2017

What OS are you using?

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ElroyJetson · Sep 17, 2017

The real prize is the rare, elusive SmartRib. Get one if you can. Reason: If you have the right version of the CPS you can do more with the radio......but only if you have the SRIB.

N4KVE · Sep 17, 2017

I use a Maxton ribless cable. Kawamall sells the same thing on E-Bay for about $20. Ideally, you will be using a Windows XP machine with a real serial port. This combo ALWAYS works. Some people can convince a Windows 7 machine to work, others can convince a USB/serial port adapter to work, but either of these last 2 are a roll of the dice.

Project25_MASTR · Sep 17, 2017

N4KVE said:
I use a Maxton ribless cable. Kawamall sells the same thing on E-Bay for about $20. Ideally, you will be using a Windows XP machine with a real serial port. This combo ALWAYS works. Some people can convince a Windows 7 machine to work, others can convince a USB/serial port adapter to work, but either of these last 2 are a roll of the dice.

Not if it's a 32 bit version of Windows. 64 bit is what doesn't work correctly and gives the error, cannot communicate with device.

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jaspence · Sep 17, 2017

XTS 3000

I use the KAWAMall cable for both the XTS and EFJ5100 and have had no problems. Don't try to use the EFJ5100 on a Moto radio, as the pins are different on the radio connector end. Windows XP 32 bit with a true serial port is the best choice even if you have to buy an old laptop to get it.

ElroyJetson · Sep 17, 2017

Dell Latitude laptops like the D620, D630, D830, etc. are ideal for radio programming. They sold truckloads of them and they're cheap, plentiful, reliable, nearly bulletproof, and if they do have problems, spares are cheap and plentiful, too.

topdog1198 · Sep 18, 2017

MCore25 said:
What OS are you using?

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Windows 7

zz0468 · Sep 19, 2017

N4KVE said:
I use a Maxton ribless cable. Kawamall sells the same thing on E-Bay for about $20. Ideally, you will be using a Windows XP machine with a real serial port. This combo ALWAYS works.

I have had problems with the Kawamall ribless cables where it would work with, say, a desktop running XP, but not a laptop running XP.

It get's weirder. That Kawamall cable that doesn't work on a specific laptop to talk to an XTS3K would work on that same laptop running DOS and programming an HT1000. And a real Motorola cable and RIB would work fine with the laptop that won't talk to the radio with the Kawamall cable.

That same cable might work fine programming an XTS3K on yet a different laptop running XP or 7, or whatever. All of the above experienced on computers with real serial ports, running real XP (SP3), and real DOS.

I have personally experienced this weirdness, so I won't endorse that "ALWAYS works" statement. Clearly, your mileage may vary.

N4KVE · Sep 19, 2017

topdog1198 said:
Windows 7

32, or 64 bit.

N4KVE · Sep 19, 2017

zz0468 said:
I have had problems with the Kawamall ribless cables where it would work with, say, a desktop running XP, but not a laptop running XP.

It get's weirder. That Kawamall cable that doesn't work on a specific laptop to talk to an XTS3K would work on that same laptop running DOS and programming an HT1000. And a real Motorola cable and RIB would work fine with the laptop that won't talk to the radio with the Kawamall cable.

That same cable might work fine programming an XTS3K on yet a different laptop running XP or 7, or whatever. All of the above experienced on computers with real serial ports, running real XP (SP3), and real DOS.

I have personally experienced this weirdness, so I won't endorse that "ALWAYS works" statement. Clearly, your mileage may vary.

Happened to me too. My Maxton ribless cable works on all my 3000's, & MTS 2000's except one radio with older FW. That particular radio requires a rib, & cable. Same laptop though.

Project25_MASTR · Sep 19, 2017

topdog1198 said:
Windows 7

64 bit or 32 bit?

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ElroyJetson · Sep 19, 2017

I have both 32 and 64 bit installs of windows 7 and the CPS works fine on both. Never had an issue.

pallen444 · Sep 19, 2017

cable

Hello i use a USB to VGA cable works great i use windows 10 pro some times i have to update driver in device manager. when i first got cable had to look online for driver.

topdog1198 · Sep 19, 2017

operating system

N4KVE said:
32, or 64 bit.

When I get home I'll check to see if it's 32 or 64. However I took your advice and purchase the deal computer running Windows XP hopefully this will eliminate the problem thanks for the help

topdog1198 · Sep 19, 2017

I purchase a D620 laptop hopefully this will help me with my programming issues

Project25_MASTR · Sep 19, 2017

ElroyJetson said:
I have both 32 and 64 bit installs of windows 7 and the CPS works fine on both. Never had an issue.

I've never been able to get it to function on a 64 bit machine when it comes to serial communications.

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ElroyJetson · Sep 19, 2017

Some system specs on my desktop running 64 bit Win 7:

Dell S5520 workstation motherboard, dual quad-core Xeon processor @3 GHz, 24 GB RAM, and some unknown but possibly genuine Intel brand RS232 serial card installed, running Windows 7 Ultimate Edition.

Project25_MASTR · Sep 20, 2017

ElroyJetson said:
Some system specs on my desktop running 64 bit Win 7:

Dell S5520 workstation motherboard, dual quad-core Xeon processor @3 GHz, 24 GB RAM, and some unknown but possibly genuine Intel brand RS232 serial card installed, running Windows 7 Ultimate Edition.

Interesting. The only way I've been able to get it to run on my Latitude's is using Win XP mode to buffer it. Of course, the company won't pay to get me a computer with a hardware serial port...I can't even get a ruggedized laptop out of them (my last one fell off a D9) but was still usable for a while. Now they've got me in some new Win10 Latitude and I get errors left and right for things. Windows 10 is okay (it's got a lot of useless crap on it for a business machine) but I really feel like Dell has taken yet another step backwards on the build quality of their Lattitude's.

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