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This should put a kink in the agencies that invested heavily in Motorola's ADP encryption, because it was cheap. If they are unable to buy any additional units capable of ADP, they will either need to fund the upgrade cost to AES or remove it if they need to add new radios.


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Link to the original article has working links referred to at the end of this article.

Motorola Removes ADP Encryption as Included Option from Radios
By Sandra Wendelken, Editor
Tuesday, November 07, 2017

Motorola Solutions agreed to remove the Advanced Digital Privacy (ADP) encryption feature as an included option from all subscriber models on or before June 30, 2017.
 
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It might have been at first Motorola exclusive, but Relm, Harris, and I believe Ericsson made p25 radios that worked just fine with Motorola ADP.

They just couldn't call it ADP:
Relm- RCE Encryption
Harris- Encryption Lite

Same standard, 40 bit RC4.
 

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Looks to me like Harris customers are going to come out ok with the free single key AES. Kenwood, EF and BK on the other hand are going to put the screws to theirs...."too bad...so sad...more money please..."
 
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Pardon my naivety, but what is an "included option"?
 

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It might have been at first Motorola exclusive, but Relm, Harris, and I believe Ericsson made p25 radios that worked just fine with Motorola ADP.



They just couldn't call it ADP:

Relm- RCE Encryption

Harris- Encryption Lite



Same standard, 40 bit RC4.



Add Tait to that list as well.


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Pardon my naivety, but what is an "included option"?

an option standard (included) with the product for no additional cost. Motorola started bundling single key ADP software encryption on all APX subscribers quite a while ago. Other vendors begin to follow suit with low cost encryption, Harris gave free DES, same with EFJ. Think of it like floor mats and an AM-FM radio on a car.

No one gives you AES-256 for free, at least not that I am aware of.
 

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Attached is the Harris response, even though they are only giving single key AES, its better than nothing.
 

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ADP isn’t going away, it’s just not an included option. This is for P25 compliance, where encryption if purchased must include AES.
 
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