wakeandsnow
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Found a retailer in Alberta that sells G5 pagers but says they do not work with the AFRRCS system. Will that be possible or no?
Found a retailer in Alberta that sells G5 pagers but says they do not work with the AFRRCS system. Will that be possible or no?
I would think it would its just not on the approved list for users
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No idea what that means...
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No idea what that means...
not allowed to be used on the network.?? the G5 don't work as a Subscriber radio so i'm lost?
I'm not following this 'approved' thing with regard to a G4 or G5....
Note - if you are looking at a Unication pager because it is superior on simulcast, be aware that the only part of AFRRCS that uses simulcast is the Edmonton metro area. All other areas of the province are using the far less complicated and more sensible method involving only one path per frequency.
Actually Jay is bang on with his statement. Simulcast in Edmonton hasn't turned out the way they wanted. The users that pushed for it are now finding the coverage still doesn't compare to the existing EDACS system.Don't listen to Jay as he has no idea about anything Edmonton. All that will do it get you burnt with bad advice. He should stick to things that he knows about .. that being his part of the province. Kind of like his denial that encryption is a big deal, shows how much he pushes his agenda here.
Who said anything about a partner agency (other than you)? The user was only asking if anyone know if the G4 or G5 would receive the system. "Connecting to the network" has nothing to do with the G4 or G5 (or a scanner for that matter).According to rev. 9.0 dated March 21/2017 of the approved radio list, the G4 has been tested and approved for use on AFRRCS.
If a radio is not listed on the approved radio list, it can not be used by a partner agancy on AFRRCS. What can’t you follow?
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Thanks Jay - what I read above regarding "connection to" (affiliating with) any given system has absolutely nothing to do with a G4 or G5 as they, like may other monitoring options are simply passive receivers that do no need to "connect to" a network.The Unication pagers are turning out to be quite popular on AFRRCS. I don't have any, but I do know of several agencies using them.
Don't read anything into which model(s) appear on the Permitted Radio List. That list is intended for devices which actually make a connection to the trunk system. Since a pager/receiver does not, I would not be surprised if pagers are removed in future releases of the list.
This may or may not be true - I'd be concerned about the vendor mentioned in Post #1 as I have found several systems (usually non-Motorola) where the G4 and G5 just do not work. A good test for this problem - program a Whistler directly from the RRDB/library and if it works without any modifications, the G4/G5 will likely work. If you have to change the "Site Options" from "Autofill" (the default) to "Standard", the G4/G5 probably won't work. Of course, there may be other things that cause keep the G4/G5 from working but so far, I haven't found anything.What I've heard from people who have them is they work just fine so long as you have your firmware and programming up to date and done right.
This is true of any receiver/scanner if/when only monitoring the local/closest site of any given system. The G4/G5 can only monitor one control channel/site at a time (it will not "scan" over multiple sites) like scanners can/do. Of course, it will look for a better control channel/site if/when the quality of the currently monitored CC drops below predetermined levels.Again, I'm not familiar with the programming of the pager because I don't have one, but the comment made up above is correct - if there is no radio on "your site" tuned to the talkgroup(s) you want to hear, there's a very high probability that you will not pick up that talkgroup. Talkgroups are provided to sites when a radio tuned into that talkgroup signs on to that site. There do seem to be exceptions - I hear some activity via scanner that is on sites that are nowhere near that talkgroup's "location" - but the general rule still applies.
This is pretty important -- I've said many, many times - the G4/G5 is a great solution if fighting with simulcast issues. However, if the system/site(s) you want to monitor are not simulcast, I strong recommend sticking with you choice of scanner.Note - if you are looking at a Unication pager because it is superior on simulcast, be aware that the only part of AFRRCS that uses simulcast is the Edmonton metro area. All other areas of the province are using the far less complicated and more sensible method involving only one path per frequency.
This may or may not be true - I'd be concerned about the vendor mentioned in Post #1 as I have found several systems (usually non-Motorola) where the G4 and G5 just do not work. A good test for this problem - program a Whistler directly from the RRDB/library and if it works without any modifications, the G4/G5 will likely work. If you have to change the "Site Options" from "Autofill" (the default) to "Standard", the G4/G5 probably won't work. Of course, there may be other things that cause keep the G4/G5 from working but so far, I haven't found anything.