mdsxfire
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Can a Harris p25 phase 2 radio be used on a moto phase 2 system and vice versa?
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Cross radio compatibility
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From a basic push to talk use, yes. Sometimes there are manufacturer specific features that are not cross compatible. These features may or may not impact public safety users, so the best source is the system administrator.
But will it register and get a grant tone (if it’s a valid ID),yes.
But will it register and get a grant tone (if it’s a valid ID),yes.
mdsxfire
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Ok thanks for the answer, we switched to our counties Harris system but everyone that surrounds us our M/A companies are all phase 2 moto
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kb4cvn
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Hopefully if Motorola ever bothers to fully follow the Project-25 specifications (EIA-103), yes. Harris (Lynchburg) back in the M/A-Com era was the first Project-25 Test Lab and Supplier certified by APCO as fully following the P-25 Spec.
The last time I looked, Moto still had not fully embraced the Spec, and was still going off maverick and doing non-standard stuff, apparently to lock their customer's into a single source supplier.
The last time I looked, Moto still had not fully embraced the Spec, and was still going off maverick and doing non-standard stuff, apparently to lock their customer's into a single source supplier.
mdsxfire
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I’ve been a motorola guy for a long time both Work and billy, and never really dealt with Harris and had my doubts when we were transitioning, but I’ve heard a lot of good things about Harris and so far so good.
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Project25_MASTR
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The subscribers have always worked according to the standard. You just have to disable the proprietary features which are enabled when the system is created on the CPS.
Both Harris and Motorola practice using non-standard features in an effort to keep the subscribers the same as the infrastructure.
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Well there is probably some of that, but I think the other problem is that they end up with non-standard features because the P25 standard doesn’t contain those features. In other words, I want my radios to do X, but there is no P25 standard feature for that. Either A, I can just not have it as a capability, or B) I can implement my own way of doing it.
Going through this now. APX Family on Harris infrastructure requires a bit more than just disabling Proprietary Features. Literally just sent the CPG to Motorola for trouble shooting. They went as far as telling me to adjust the CAI specifically, but no good. I do know there has been some issues getting Astro25 to work with Harris. However,.using a trunk simulator, I will get full access on a P7200, just a grant tone from the APX8K. no audio passage and comms drop after 2 seconds. Frustrating.
DisasterGuy
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I have multiple Harris radios on a Moto system and Moto radios on our Harris system. As mentioned, proprietary features must be turned off. Also the Band Plan / IDEN table needs to be inserted backwards on the Moto subscriber on the Harris system. Some over the top features such as OTAP have limitations for obvious reasons. With all that said, if you understand the finer points of each there is no reason that all basic voice features to include OTAR shouldn't be working.
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