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Anybody have any info on 10 codes etc? I've been googling it but can't find anything on them. Also they have 3 channels. What are each of these channels for? Just from listening it looks like channel 1 is dispatch, channel 2 I've heard EMS runs and nothing on channel 3.

Anybody here can chime in?
 

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From Scanner Master, see if these are still in use.
Yonkers Police Department 10-Codes
10-1 Call your command
10-2 Proceed to your command
10-3 Call the dispatcher
10-4 Acknowledgment
10-5 Repeat message
10-6 Out of service (location)
10-7 Out of service (on assignment)
10-8 Resuming patrol
10-9 See complainant (misc.)
10-10 Assist police officer
10-11 Alarm of fire
10-12 Motor vehicle accident (PD)
10-13 Motor vehicle accident (PI)
10-14A D.O.A.
10-14B Mental patient
10-14C Person has an infectious disease
10-15 Reported entry (burglary)
10-16 Stolen car (reported/recovered)
10-17 Disorder or fight
10-18 Alarm ringing
10-19 Traffic violation
10-20 Report of a felony?
10-21 All cars-arrest for felony,
occupants of auto-dangerous persons, use caution ?
10-22 Investigate occupants of auto/suspicious persons/abandoned; suspicious cars, etc.
10-23 Situation under control
10-24 Bomb report
10-25 Unit arrived on scene
10-26 Money escort detail?
10-27 Meal
10-30 Warrant or information request
a) Felony warrant on file
b) Misc. warrant on file
c) Motor Vehicle Warrant on file
10-34 Active warrant
10-38 No warrant
10-40 Clear the air
10-41 Resume normal radio traffic Clear the air
Clearing Codes (used after a 10-8)
01 Offense/incident report taken
(includes supplementals)
02 Accident report taken
03 No report necessary/information; exchange only
04 Advice given
05 Assisted
06 Canceled by radio
07 Turned over to (specify other
unit’s number, owner)
08 Complied with/resumed patrol
(admin. & backup assignment)
09 Gone on arrival
11 Unfounded
12 Unable to locate
13 False burglary/robbery alarm (advise dispatcher of business and address and add proper signal)
a) Human error
b) System failure
c) Abnormal circumstance (specify)
14 Arrest made-no offense report
15 Court action advised
16 Refused to prosecute
17 Summons issued
18 Auto towed
19 Information recorded
20 Notification made
21 Other
 

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Thank you! Do you know what the other 2 channels are for? Yonkers PD has 3 channels, channel 1 is dispatch but the other 2 I can't find any info on it.
 

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Don't know if this holds true anymore, but back when I serviced the system, F-1 was Dispatch F-2 was backup or DMV, F-3 was Detectives, and was very seldom used.

Thank you! I never heard anything on channel 3 as of yet, but did hear some ems runs on channel 2. Might I add the coverage is pretty damn good for this system, was in Coney Island this weekend and hear them loud and clear.
 

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YPD Channel 3

They occasionally use channel 3 for traffic radar details, parades, etc.
They and the YFD are supposedly moving to a brand new radio system sometime soon...

FYI: In 1970, they installed a 10 channel VHF/ UHF cross band radio system that was scrapped sometime later for UHF only, newspaper story here: Old Fulton New York Post Cards then under "The Exact Phrase" drop down, enter this: Yonkers NY Herald Statesman 1970 Grayscale-0264.pdf

They were way, way ahead of everybody else with this former radiosystem...
 

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A little info on their VHF/UHF system starting around 1970. Yonkers was originally on Low Band, and in 1969 or there about Mot wanted to sell them a new system. They came up with a novel idea which Mot likes to do to keep competition to a minimum. Use a radio with both a VHF transmitter and a UHF receiver. Hence the HT-200 dual band portable was born along with the VHF/UHF Motran (BTW MOT used this tactic a number of times across the country). The base stations were originally Motracs, and this remained until the 80's when they got rid of the dual band equipment and went all UHF. The equipment was then upgraded Micor 225 watt repeaters with 10 channel voting and MT-500 portables. The VHF frequencies then went to street crime also with MT-500's. Yonkers was on the prowl for another new system in early 90's so Mot bid the repair contract for a dollar a year just to get my repair shop out since we had fixed all the problems the Mot ComMSSS failed to fix. So again Mot sold Yonkers a system no one else could sell, which was a VSLEP digital system on their UHF frequencies which is a precursor of today's P-25. The VSLEP did keep out the scanner heads, but myself and others had Astro Sabers very shortly after implementation that could listen in. Then around 2000 they went pure P-25 conventional

An interesting note when I was maintianing the system in the 80's I had a stand up face to face shouting match with a Capt over encryption. He wanted it and I told him they should implement a better on the air radio policy, and training similar to what I used in the military. We actually caused the clearing of the dispatch room while this all occured, all the while the desk Lt was laughing at us both. He left and I never saw him that evening or after that.

Based on the article I have to comment on that terrible console system that was sold by Mot but was disaster. It had a card file system to supposedly keep track of calls with computer punch cards. It never worked and was abandoned, and the console had over 200 relays in to for multi casting and other services that are common today. It sounded like a Telco Switching office every time they transmitted. Just one of those relays if it went south caused all kind of problems. The original voting system was what we in the industry called the rat race. It used 3 signal levels with a tone for each signal quality to vote, but most of the time it would vote the first site it heard. There were only 3 UHF for TX and 3 VHF frequencies for RX, I can only imagine that the writer as usual that doesn't understand radio mixed up the voting sites with frequencies. The only thing that MIGHT be correct is that it was uncommon for receivers/scanners of the day to have UHF capability in them. In 1970 the only scanner was the Peterson HL-44 with no UHF. RS had a tunable that did UHF the Patrolman 3, but I don't think there was much else.
 
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Many thanks for posting such an informative reply as usual as this former system is most intriguing to read about an there a two pics of it here from the same site above: Yonkers NY Herald Statesman 1970 Grayscale-4961.pdf

Also, got my first scanner in late 1978, and they were only using the current three UHF's with the VHF's used by those other units. There might have been a single UHF band scanner back in the 1970's made by either Bearcat or Regency that was in one of the online Allied Electronics catalogs. My 1973 Lafayette catalog has a 3 band Regency scanner for sale...Thanks again for the info !!!
 

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Yonkers used the split system VHF/UHF until the 80's, the channel most monitored was the UHF repeater output. The patrol cars had VHF antenna's, but the radios still could receive the UHF repeater output signal.
Was a funky system, but it did work, and most people didn't even know that Street Crime had the VHF channels as I found out when I first started repairing their equipment.

I remember hanging with some radio friends down at the old Nathan's on Central Ave in the early 70's and all they had was a VHF scanner, so they listened to the input.
 

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They occasionally use channel 3 for traffic radar details, parades, etc.
They and the YFD are supposedly moving to a brand new radio system sometime soon...

FYI: In 1970, they installed a 10 channel VHF/ UHF cross band radio system that was scrapped sometime later for UHF only, newspaper story here: Old Fulton New York Post Cards then under "The Exact Phrase" drop down, enter this: Yonkers NY Herald Statesman 1970 Grayscale-0264.pdf

They were way, way ahead of everybody else with this former radiosystem...

Do you know what kind of system? Do they plan to stay in the clear?
 

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No idea I havn't been down there in ages, I would assume(and we all know what that means) that if they wanted to go "E" they could have with the P-25 system. I bet Mot is trying to sell them on 700 since the County is supposed to go that way. The exception may be the other Fire Departments since at a Chiefs Council meeting I heard they are not moving anywhere. The UHF analog works fine with some dead spots, which would only multiply if they went 700. Take the number of sites now being used on 470 and multiply by at least 3 for 700/800.

Mot has been trying to get the county to go 800 since the late 80's, but push back by individuals in the County I won't name since most are now deceased has always been a reason they never went.

Putnam is going 700 in the future (don't have a timeline) I know they wanted to piggyback off our MTA 700/800 P-25 Harris system being built out with much resistance from the local governments since they don't want the towers. It appears that the push just like to VHF and UHF from low band in the 70's is to 700/800.

After that I suspect it will be LTE, and then Mot will have some trouble competing since any handset will work, just like cellphones.
 

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There's a westchester trunk system that seems to be countywide for fire. I hope they remain where they are but fix the P25 issues they've had and moving FD dispatch to UHF would be nice since they already have fireground on UHF.
 

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Wasn't Yonkers one of the first agency in the tristate area that went P25? For as long as I remember they have been on UHF P25.

May be the upgrade is to replace the aging Quantars or infrastructure.
 

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Wasn't Yonkers one of the first agency in the tristate area that went P25? For as long as I remember they have been on UHF P25.

May be the upgrade is to replace the aging Quantars or infrastructure.

I listen to them from time to time but can only make out about half of what they say. You constantly hear them say 10-5 over and over again so I know it's not just on my end.
 

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I listen to them from time to time but can only make out about half of what they say. You constantly hear them say 10-5 over and over again so I know it's not just on my end.

Makes you wonder how old their gear is and if its running old firmware.
 

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The P-25 equipment is actually less than 15 years old. I think they upgraded to P-25 from Vslep in about 2005 or 2006. The main reason I think they have problems is Yonkers is so hilly, and one transmitter cannot cover the whole city at once. I used to listen to them at the shop in Croton on Hudson with a service monitor so I don't think it's a power issue. Whether it is a simulcast system or not I am not sure.

Back when they were analog they had 100 watt Micors hidden all over the place but since they disabled the vote steering (not a great idea to start with) none of the dispatchers knew how to select the closest transmitter. They just let whatever site they were on blast out. The North Command site had great coverage on the West side, but could not make it to Central Ave by the Scarsdale line. The P.S. 6 was supposed to fill in the center of Yonkers with the Sprain Brook Command site covering the East. P.S. 6 site got damaged when the roof leaked all over the transmitters. I ended up getting 2 of the 3 freqs working letting F-3 run at only 20 watts.

A good simulcast system with all 3 sites would cover the whole city and some. If they find problems receiving they should add more RX sites.

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Makes you wonder how old their gear is and if its running old firmware.

I don't even know what they are using for portables.I would imagine the base /repeaters are Quantars or MT2K series since narrow banding.

For a broke city they sure spent a lot on radio equipment in the last 40-45 years. Basically replacing their radio system every 10-15 years.
 

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It's definitely not a power issue as I heard them all the way down to Coney Island which actually amazed me. It just sounds so bad, half of the messages are unreadable. Honestly since Yonkers was like the only P25 signal I used to be able to recieve, I thought all p25 sounded like crap but then you listen to LAPD and wow what a difference.
 

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I thought P25 sounded so robotic when we first switched and now when I hear a scratchy analog signal...ugh.


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Yonkers pd is just upgrading equipment.
New apx radios for portable and mobiles

They do have a simulcast system with multiple receive sites.

I would suggest you check you scanner settings, I changed a few that had issues and it helped alot
 
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