Sentinel install fails

mesocyclone · May 5, 2018

I am trying to install the latest Sentinel (1.07.05) on Windows 10.

The installer says that .NET 2 is required, and gives me the option to install it. But that option takes me to the Microsoft general .NET install, and that tells me that .NET 4 is already installed on my system.

What do I do now?

iMONITOR · May 5, 2018

mesocyclone said:
I am trying to install the latest Sentinel (1.07.05) on Windows 10.

The installer says that .NET 2 is required, and gives me the option to install it. But that option takes me to the Microsoft general .NET install, and that tells me that .NET 4 is already installed on my system.

What do I do now?

Windows 10 32-bit or 64-bit?

rbrtklamp2 · May 5, 2018

Make sure all of your dot net packages are installed you can get them for free at microsoft downloads some software packages require different dot net versions as the updates are cumulative.

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Voyager · May 6, 2018

.NET 4 has nothing to do with .NET 2.

.NET is only cumulative within the major version (.NET 4 does not replace .NET 2). You can have several versions of .NET installed.

rbrtklamp2 · May 6, 2018

Sorry ment "not cumulative" long night sorry about that.

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UPMan · May 6, 2018

There are specific instructions for installing .NET 2.x. But, the specific instructions depend on what operating system you have. If Dr. Google doesn't answer the question for you, post your windows version details.

HogDriver · May 6, 2018

I had to actually “check” the box for Net 2.0 for it to work. Cant remember where it was, maybe Explorer Advanced setup or something.

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marksmith · May 6, 2018

Windows 10 does not play well with others.
Period.

Mark
536/436/ws1095/996p2/996xt/325p2/396xt/psr800/396t/HP-1/HP-2 & others

iMONITOR · May 6, 2018

Most software related problems with Windows 10 are due to developers/programmers not complying with Microsoft's rules and requirements.

Siemc10001 · May 6, 2018

Enable net framework 2.0 jn win 10

Go to programs and features
Enable windows features
Check checkbox for net framework 2.9/3.5
Close all programs and restart
When loved in again run the sentinel setup
You should be good to go

mesocyclone · May 6, 2018

Thanks! That did it

Thanks for your help. What surprised me was that the program is sensitive to the .NET version. That's just, well, wrong. But with the instructions on how to enable 2ish and 3ish version, I was able to get the program to install!

SteveSimpkin · May 6, 2018

mesocyclone said:
What surprised me was that the program is sensitive to the .NET version. That's just, well, wrong.

Not really. That was just the version of .NET the program was compiled to use.
What was wrong was not at least including clear instructions on how to install this software properly on a Windows 10 computer.

iMONITOR · May 6, 2018

SteveSimpkin said:
What was wrong was not at least including clear instructions on how to install this software properly on a Windows 10 computer.

See post #9

Voyager · May 7, 2018

SteveSimpkin said:
Not really. That was just the version of .NET the program was compiled to use.
What was wrong was not at least including clear instructions on how to install this software properly on a Windows 10 computer.

May as well go another step and complain about not having installation instructions for Windows, too.

Really. Some things are beyond the scope of a manufacturer. Operation of your PC is one of them.

I do love the comment about "Most software related problems with Windows 10 are due to developers/programmers not complying with Microsoft's rules and requirements"

You DO realize .NET is a Microsoft product, right? It would be hilarious of Microsoft does not comply with their own rules and requirements. Not impossible, but hilarious.

mesocyclone · May 7, 2018

.NET

I am a software developer, and have been for a long time. If .NET versions are so incompatible that vendors have to specify a specific one, that is a problem caused by Microsoft.

But if a vendor supplied program for a current product only works with an old version of an operating system or its add-on, the vendor needs to get their act together.

Users should not have to be systems administrators. Even as a developer, keeping track of sys admin tasks for my personal machines is daunting, as this thread shows. Why should I suspect that .NET 4 is not upwards compatible from .NET 2? That's just, well, *wrong*!

iMONITOR · May 7, 2018

I've had software that during installation pop up a screen advising the user that a particular .net run-time module is required, and then give you an option from within their installation, to accept the installation of the proper .net run-time and install it for you before continuing their own software installation. I believe Paragon's Disk/Drive Manager is one of them that does this.

iMONITOR · May 7, 2018

Voyager said:
You DO realize .NET is a Microsoft product, right? It would be hilarious of Microsoft does not comply with their own rules and requirements. Not impossible, but hilarious.

Microsoft is not the one having a problem with this. It is an issue with some software 'applications' that were written with an older compiler and as a result requires the older .net run-time module to run.

Prior to .net, the previous programming language compiler Visual Basic has similar issues, requiring programmers/developers to update things as they progressed. If they didn't, the installer needed to install the older VB compiler just like with .NET.

Voyager · May 7, 2018

iMONITOR said:
Microsoft is not the one having a problem with this. It is an issue with some software 'applications' that were written with an older compiler and as a result requires the older .net run-time module to run.

If .NET were cumulative, .NET 3.5 would replace .NET 2.0. It does not.

As was stated, it's all based on which version it was written for.

There is a reason Microsoft allows you to install many versions at the same time.

The issue is simply what was stated: .NET 2.0 was not installed.

HogDriver · May 7, 2018

I’ve noticed that the Uniden scanner manuals, at least the 436/536, are written for people who already have a clue about what all the features are for and are most likely Ham radio operators who are well-versed in these functions. Much of it I had to figure out on my own and even then, some things are still grey. I would imagine 50% of the features on these radios I don’t use because I don’t understand why you would use them! Most of these things are in the Close Call/Search and Analyze areas. I wish there was an explanation about each feature and what it’s used for!

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jonwienke · May 7, 2018

Easier to Read BCD436/536HP Digital Scanner Manual

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