System 2076 NXDN 9600

IdleMonitor · May 25, 2018

Anyone got any other info on this system?

Mobilonde Inc. - NXDN 9600
System ID 0081CH
143.280 Control Channel - Site 4 - LCN 37 - Mt. St. Marie

Other frequencies associated with this license are 142.035 and 143.940

http://tafl.mckie.ca/?query=VXK799&prov=QC

mmisk · May 26, 2018

No information other then this:

142.035 NXDN96
143.265 NXDN96 Mobolonde CH 1
143.280 NXDN96 Mobolonde CH 37
143.940 NXDN96 Mobolonde

DaveH · May 27, 2018

IdleMonitor said:
Anyone got any other info on this system?

Mobilonde Inc. - NXDN 9600
System ID 0081CH
143.280 Control Channel - Site 4 - LCN 37 - Mt. St. Marie

Other frequencies associated with this license are 142.035 and 143.940

TAFL Search Results

It's part of this system:

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?action=sysid&sysid=2076

0081C (hex) -> 2076 (dec)

Dave

IdleMonitor · May 27, 2018

DaveH said:
It's part of this system:

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?action=sysid&sysid=2076

Dave

Are you sure about that?

http://www.mobilonde.ca

DaveH · May 27, 2018

IdleMonitor said:
Are you sure about that?

Produits - Mobilonde.ca

TAFL does not always reflect the real state of things. Unless you guys are hearing something
different from me, 142.035 is NXDN 4.8k, belongs to this system:

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?action=sysid&sysid=2008

143.265 I can copy is Cap+ DMR: CTM at Mont Ripon. Frequencies get re-used so you can hear different things depending on location.

Some of these systems are like OnQue, sites handled by different licensees.

Dave

IdleMonitor · May 27, 2018

Well. I know I heard the one frequency and was able to copy the details of it. Can 2 different systems have the same SysID?

The other frequencies mentioned in this thread I did not hear. Mmisk tells the tale of those. Whether they're part of the same system I have no idea. I just put that they are related as per the licence in hopes someone closer would be able to hear it.

DaveH · May 27, 2018

DaveH said:
It's part of this system:

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?action=sysid&sysid=2076

0081C (hex) -> 2076 (dec)

Dave

CC for System 2076 Site 4 has not been on 162.675 for a while. This would explain it.

Dave

DaveH · May 27, 2018

Another thing out of sync for this site is DMR: 143.520 and 152.315 according to TAFL and this DB.

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=9685

TAFL Search Results

I've heard no digital activity on 152.315, only analog (CSQ?) repeater, with some road operations (but
have not been able to localize based on named towns, roads etc.). This has repeated fire comms from
Orillia area on occasion. Repeater input 158.295 jives with the distant activity.

DMR CAP+ rest channel seems to stay on 143.520.

Dave

DaveH · May 27, 2018

mmisk said:
No information other then this:

142.035 NXDN96
143.265 NXDN96 Mobolonde CH 1
143.280 NXDN96 Mobolonde CH 37
143.940 NXDN96 Mobolonde

DSD+ running on Sys 2076 Site 1 CC (165.540) shows neighbour Site 4 with CC=37.

Dave

Another thing, N96 channels can be dual mode (analog/digital) but I believe N48 would not. Not exactly sure how it works.

DaveH · May 29, 2018

DaveH said:
It's part of this system:

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?action=sysid&sysid=2076

0081C (hex) -> 2076 (dec)

Dave

You could try entering 143.280 and 162.675 as a NX96 system, see what you hear. In Gatineau/Ottawa area system seems heavy on school busses, not sure up around Mt. Ste-Marie. I suspect it's not very busy, but try early morning and mid-afternoon.

As for systems with same network ID, GoTRBO (DMR) and OnQue (Nexedge) have the same ID 202 across modes; and OnQue has two systems (Ontario and Quebec) with the same ID, and in some cases same site numbers, though they are geographically separated. That can be confusing at times, trying to figure out which system you're hearing, especially when conditions are good.

Dave

DaveH · Jun 2, 2018

Sorry, but this sytem as submitted is mixed up. Can't have three different modes in one system.

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=10022

142.035 = NXDN 4.8k System 2008

143.940 not sure

143.265 = DMR Cap+ DCC=9 (CTM at Ripon)

143.280 = NXDN 9.6k System 2076 Site 4

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=8811

As I mentioned earlier 081C (hex) = 2076 (decimal), the system above.

Dave

mciupa · Jun 3, 2018

DaveH said:
Sorry, but this sytem as submitted is mixed up. Can't have three different modes in one system.

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=10022

142.035 = NXDN 4.8k System 2008

143.940 not sure

143.265 = DMR Cap+ DCC=9 (CTM at Ripon)

143.280 = NXDN 9.6k System 2076 Site 4

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=8811

As I mentioned earlier 081C (hex) = 2076 (decimal), the system above.

Dave

I have deprecated the Mobilonde system and put an explanation in the description. I will add 143.28 to the proper location.

DaveH · Jun 4, 2018

A number of things unusual at this site, can't relay on TAFL for the full story. Possibly some sort of frequency-sharing arrangement?

I can no longer hear 142.035 N48 CC, but can hear N96 and DMR from the same site. It was attached to System 2008 already in the RR DB. Might have something to do with that frequency being used by Fleetnet, Cornwall and Belleville PDs. Nothing heard on 143.940, think it might have been N48 voice channel (and may still be).

Dave

DaveH · Jun 6, 2018

DaveH said:
DSD+ running on Sys 2076 Site 1 CC (165.540) shows neighbour Site 4 with CC=37.

Dave

Another thing, N96 channels can be dual mode (analog/digital) but I believe N48 would not. Not exactly sure how it works.

BTW System 2076 Site 4 CC 143.280 shows a Neighbour Site 5, did not get a CC channel number but that would not give the frequency anyway (unless already known).

Dave

mmisk · Jun 6, 2018

DaveH said:
BTW System 2076 Site 4 CC 143.280 shows a Neighbour Site 5, did not get a CC channel number but that would not give the frequency anyway (unless already known).

Dave

Can receive 143.28 good signal, shows channel 37.

Also showing:

Neighbor
L2076-1 CC=1
L2076-3 CC=53
L2076-2 CC=20
L2076-5 CC=91

DaveH · Jun 7, 2018

Site 4 has another VC. I was listening on 143.940 this morning, definitely "heard" NXDN 9.6k VC activity. Might take me a while to confirm that it belongs to Site 4.

Dave

DaveH · Jun 8, 2018

Site 2 CC (162.1200) usually does not come in well enough here to decode. This morning I heard it fairly well, but had no time to decode using DSD+. But it's surprising how much you can gather from just hearing it.

The CC appeared to convert to VC sometimes. That makes sense, TAFL shows only 164.085 at that site (subject to confirming it's the VC). That would give two VCs during busy times.

Dave

DaveH · Jun 9, 2018

Enhanced propagation early this morning, heard a weak N96 control channel on 153.380 but too weak
for decoding. This could be Site 5 which is only neighbour to Site 4.

Closest I find in TAFL is Mobilonde with a whole bunch of frequencies, however, note in
record "Ajout canal Mt Ste-Marie" (which is Site 4). Site itself is near Mt. Laurier.

TAFL Search Results

Dave

IdleMonitor · Jun 11, 2018

Logged a couple of talkgroups on this system today.

I've added 2 of them to the database.

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?action=sysid&sysid=2076

Talkgroups logged are.

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DaveH · Jun 12, 2018

DaveH said:
Enhanced propagation early this morning, heard a weak N96 control channel on 153.380 but too weak
for decoding. This could be Site 5 which is only neighbour to Site 4.

Closest I find in TAFL is Mobilonde with a whole bunch of frequencies, however, note in
record "Ajout canal Mt Ste-Marie" (which is Site 4). Site itself is near Mt. Laurier.

TAFL Search Results

Dave

Someone misinterpreted what I said; Site 4 is at Mont Ste-Marie, has not changed. The other site possibly Site 5 is north of Mont Laurier.

TAFL Search Results

Dave

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