Niagara Falls DMR/NexEdge Stuff

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I was down in the Falls today doing some scanning. It looks like Great Wolf Lodge finally got rid of their old LTR Passport system. They are now running a DMR Cap+ system.
453.7375 CC 10 LCN 1
460.2375 CC 10 LCN 2
461.4375 CC 10 LCN 3

TG's heard 101, 103, 104, 105, 106, 108.

Some other stuff I heard Niagara Speedway Go Carts, DMR Conventional 463.9625 CC 14 TG 105 & 106. I didn't heard it today but the last time I was down there two months ago just before they opened. They also came up on Close Call while sitting at the Beer Garden on Clifton Hill.

I am pretty sure as I was sitting right across the street from it Scotiabank Convention Centre is using a Capacity Plus on 461.2375 CC 5 LCN 1 with tg 153 active.

Also for the St Lawrence Seaway Management 162.6150 I didn't hear the TG listed in the DB but I did hear another TG 99012.

Another thing I noticed is Walker Aggregates on 165.0750 is coming up as a DMR Capacity Plus and not as DMR Conventional as listed in the DB.

Other stuff I found ..
451.1875 CC 10 Cap+ TG 156
451.7875 NX9 Sys 2001 Site 1 RAN 1
452.2625 CC 5 Cap+
452.4625 CC 1 DMR TG 1 & 2
452.5375 CC 5 DMR TG 1 & 2
452.6000 CC 1 DMR Cap+ TG 1 & 16
453.2875 CC 8 Cap+ TG 190 This frequency is licensed to NHS in Welland so it possibly could be that.. but not 100% sure
461.6500 CC 7 Cap+

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Oh there is one other thing.. for someone down there could you check the LCN's for 168.1800 & 169.4400 for the City Of Niagara Falls DMR Capacity Plus.. there is only the one frequency listed in the DB but I noticed there is another active frequency as well but didn't get a chance to check the LCN's.

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Wonder if the NX9 could be the Hilton Hotel or Fallsview Casino ?

The casino is listed as LTR and hasn't updated for a couple of years.
 

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Wonder if the NX9 could be the Hilton Hotel or Fallsview Casino ?

The casino is listed as LTR and hasn't updated for a couple of years.

I checked the licenses and see a couple listed for the falls.
SAINT GOBAIN CERAMIC MATERIALS CANADA INC
HILTON NIAGARA FALLS 876891 ONTARIO LTD

I didn't hear any activity on this frequency either so I have no idea what it could be.

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I was down in the Falls today doing some scanning. It looks like Great Wolf Lodge finally got rid of their old LTR Passport system. They are now running a DMR Cap+ system.
453.7375 CC 10 LCN 1
460.2375 CC 10 LCN 2
461.4375 CC 10 LCN 3

TG's heard 101, 103, 104, 105, 106, 108.

Some other stuff I heard Niagara Speedway Go Carts, DMR Conventional 463.9625 CC 14 TG 105 & 106. I didn't heard it today but the last time I was down there two months ago just before they opened. They also came up on Close Call while sitting at the Beer Garden on Clifton Hill.

I am pretty sure as I was sitting right across the street from it Scotiabank Convention Centre is using a Capacity Plus on 461.2375 CC 5 LCN 1 with tg 153 active.

Also for the St Lawrence Seaway Management 162.6150 I didn't hear the TG listed in the DB but I did hear another TG 99012.

Another thing I noticed is Walker Aggregates on 165.0750 is coming up as a DMR Capacity Plus and not as DMR Conventional as listed in the DB.

Other stuff I found ..
451.1875 CC 10 Cap+ TG 156
451.7875 NX9 Sys 2001 Site 1 RAN 1
452.2625 CC 5 Cap+
452.4625 CC 1 DMR TG 1 & 2
452.5375 CC 5 DMR TG 1 & 2
452.6000 CC 1 DMR Cap+ TG 1 & 16
453.2875 CC 8 Cap+ TG 190 This frequency is licensed to NHS in Welland so it possibly could be that.. but not 100% sure
461.6500 CC 7 Cap+

Matt

Hi Matt, I'm down in Fort Erie, and have been listening to 453.2875 with DSD+ but the signal is not that good at this time, this is what I am picking up Cap+ BS dcc-8 TG = 102 keeps popping up but the audio is to broken because of the bad signal. I have had this in my list as 453.2875 458.2875 STARBAG DRILLING NIAGARA FALLS ONT. 131.8 PL FM I wonder if this is them.
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Hi Matt, I'm down in Fort Erie, and have been listening to 453.2875 with DSD+ but the signal is not that good at this time, this is what I am picking up Cap+ BS dcc-8 TG = 102 keeps popping up but the audio is to broken because of the bad signal. I have had this in my list as 453.2875 458.2875 STARBAG DRILLING NIAGARA FALLS ONT. 131.8 PL FM I wonder if this is them.
Steve

Hey Steve, i checked the TAFL and it seems the only listing in the Niagara Region for that frequency is the NHS Hospital in Welland.

I was going to ask you too Steve, if you could check 168.1800 & 169.4400 which look like they are both part of the City Of Niagara Falls Public Works system but listed separately in the DB here. They are both showing up as a CAP+ system with a CC of 10. I didn't get a chance to check to see if they where actually part of the same system which I am thinking they are and what their LCN's where. Could you give these a looksee?

Matt
 
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Check frequencies

Hey Steve, i checked the TAFL and it seems the only listing in the Niagara Region for that frequency is the NHS Hospital in Welland.

I was going to ask you too Steve, if you could check 168.1800 & 169.4400 which look like they are both part of the City Of Niagara Falls Public Works system but listed separately in the DB here. They are both showing up as a CAP+ system with a CC of 10. I didn't get a chance to check to see if they where actually part of the same system which I am thinking they are and what their LCN's where. Could you give these a looksee?

Matt

I don't know how to find the LNC'S with DSD+ I have a taped scanner and put in one of the frequencies and then start DSD+ I see no LCN'S in any of DSD+ windows. 169.440 is coming up cap+ BS dcc-10 and 168.180 is coming up cap+ SITE-1 DCC-10
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I was down in the Falls today doing some scanning. It looks like Great Wolf Lodge finally got rid of their old LTR Passport system. They are now running a DMR Cap+ system.
453.7375 CC 10 LCN 1
460.2375 CC 10 LCN 2
461.4375 CC 10 LCN 3

TG's heard 101, 103, 104, 105, 106, 108.

Some other stuff I heard Niagara Speedway Go Carts, DMR Conventional 463.9625 CC 14 TG 105 & 106. I didn't heard it today but the last time I was down there two months ago just before they opened. They also came up on Close Call while sitting at the Beer Garden on Clifton Hill.

I am pretty sure as I was sitting right across the street from it Scotiabank Convention Centre is using a Capacity Plus on 461.2375 CC 5 LCN 1 with tg 153 active.

Also for the St Lawrence Seaway Management 162.6150 I didn't hear the TG listed in the DB but I did hear another TG 99012.

Another thing I noticed is Walker Aggregates on 165.0750 is coming up as a DMR Capacity Plus and not as DMR Conventional as listed in the DB.

Other stuff I found ..
451.1875 CC 10 Cap+ TG 156
451.7875 NX9 Sys 2001 Site 1 RAN 1
452.2625 CC 5 Cap+
452.4625 CC 1 DMR TG 1 & 2
452.5375 CC 5 DMR TG 1 & 2
452.6000 CC 1 DMR Cap+ TG 1 & 16
453.2875 CC 8 Cap+ TG 190 This frequency is licensed to NHS in Welland so it possibly could be that.. but not 100% sure
461.6500 CC 7 Cap+

Matt


165.0750 is coming up in DSD+ as CAP+ BS DCC-13 Slot 1 and Slot 2
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TG-241

That would be Walker Aggregates out of Thorold.. TG 241 is the one that I have heard..

Matt

Yes TG=241 is the one I see also coming up, I am having real bad reception down hear with these frequencies, it must be the HOT muggy weather causing the problems with me getting the audio but I can confirm all the information.
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I don't know how to find the LNC'S with DSD+ I have a taped scanner and put in one of the frequencies and then start DSD+ I see no LCN'S in any of DSD+ windows. 169.440 is coming up cap+ BS dcc-10 and 168.180 is coming up cap+ SITE-1 DCC-10
Steve

So for the channel that is transmitting the idle marker.. look at the data in DSD+ and it will say something like Idle Channel or Home Channel.. that would be what you are looking for.

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readout from DSD+

So for the channel that is transmitting the idle marker.. look at the data in DSD+ and it will say something like Idle Channel or Home Channel.. that would be what you are looking for.

Matt
THIS IS WHAT'S COMING UP ON 168.180 is the LCN IN THERE ?????




DSD+ 2.113
Writing synthesized audio to per-call mp3 files
Appending synthesized audio to file 'DSDPlus.wav'
Current working directory is "C:\DSD"

audio input device #1 = 'External Mic (IDT High Definiti'
audio input device #2 = 'Integrated Microphone Array (ID'

audio output device #1 = 'Speakers and Dual Headphones (I'
audio output device #2 = 'IndependentáDual Headphones (ID'
audio output device #3 = 'SPDIF (Digital Out via HP Dock)'

audio input device #1 (External Mic (IDT High Definiti) initialized
audio output device #1 (Speakers and Dual Headphones (I) initialized

Fusion decoding enabled
D-STAR decoding enabled
NXDN4800 decoding enabled
NXDN9600 decoding enabled
DMR/MotoTRBO decoding enabled
P25 Phase 1 decoding enabled
X2-TDMA decoding enabled
ProVoice decoding enabled

Mono audio decoding initiated; press Esc to exit...
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR5 Cap+ RestCh=1
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR12 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR3 Cap+ RestCh=1
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR1 Cap+ RestCh=1
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot2 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR7 [LB=1 CSBKO=41 (?)
FID=10 v16=0100 id1=17163 id2=16515072]
29 10 0100 00430B FC0000
10101001000100000000000100000000000000000100001100001011111111000000000000000000
1100000111010110
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR9 ECC FAIL
+DMR CACH ERR slot2 BS DATA ERR2 DCC=10 CSBK ERR10 ECC FAIL
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA ERR2 DCC=10 CSBK ERR11 ECC FAIL
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR9 ECC FAIL
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK [LB=1 CSBKO=41 (?) FID=1
0 v16=0100 id1=2573 id2=16515072]
29 10 0100 000A0D FC0000
10101001000100000000000100000000000000000000101000001101111111000000000000000000
0101111101011011
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=1
+DMR CACH ERR slot2 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR7 Cap+ RestCh=1
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR2 DCC=10 CSBK ERR10 ECC FAIL
CACH Sig ERR3
+DMR CACH ERR slot2 BS DATA ERR2 DCC=10 CSBK ERR9 ECC FAIL
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 Data Header ERR5 DPF=[15:prop
] SAP=1 MFID=16 1F 10 02 01 33 00 16 00 01 31 5D 3C
+DMR slot2 BS DATA ERR3 DCC=10 CSBK ERR3 Cap+ RestCh=1
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 Rate 1/2 Data ERR5 00 00 00 0
0 00 01 00 00 ........ CRC FAIL
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR7 ECC FAIL
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot2 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK [LB=1 CSBKO=41 (?) FID=1
0 v16=0100 id1=3853 id2=16515072]
29 10 0100 000F0D FC0000
10101001000100000000000100000000000000000000111100001101111111000000000000000000
0111110000001100
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR6 Cap+ RestCh=1
+DMR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR3 Cap+ RestCh=1
CACH Sig ERR1
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR3 Cap+ RestCh=1
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR3 Cap+ RestCh=1
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR1 Cap+ RestCh=1
+DMR slot2 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR5 ECC FAIL
CACH Sig ERR1
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR3 Cap+ RestCh=1
+DMR CACH ERR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR6 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR5 Cap+ RestCh=1
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR3 Cap+ RestCh=1
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 Data Header ERR7 DPF=[15:prop
] SAP=1 MFID=16 1F 10 02 01 11 4B 76 0D 1B 22 CB 8A
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA ERR2 DCC=10 CSBK ERR13 ECC FAIL
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR9 ECC FAIL
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2 ActiveCh:T
G=1:1
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR1 Cap+ RestCh=2 Acti
veCh:TG=1:1
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR14 ECC FAIL
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR7 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR1 Cap+ RestCh=2
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2
+DMR slot2 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR2 Cap+ RestCh=2
+DMR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR3 ECC FAIL
Cap+ Site=1 RestCh=2
+DMR slot2 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR2 Cap+ RestCh=2
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA ERR2 DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2
+DMR slot2 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR3 ECC FAIL
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
Cap+ Site=1 RestCh=2
+DMR slot2 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR7 [LB=1 CSBKO=41 (?)
FID=10 v16=0201 id1=14421006 id2=16515072]
29 10 0201 DC0C0E FC0000
10101001000100000000001000000001110111000000110000001110111111000000000000000000
1101011001000001
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR4 Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR3 [LB=1 CSBKO=41 (?)
FID=10 v16=0200 id1=5902 id2=16515072]
29 10 0200 00170E FC0000
10101001000100000000001000000000000000000001011100001110111111000000000000000000
0010100111010010
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA ERR3 DCC=10 CSBK ERR9 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2
CACH Sig ERR2
+DMR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2
+DMR slot2 BS DATA ERR2 DCC=10 CSBK ERR2 Cap+ RestCh=2
+DMR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR1 Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR10 ECC FAIL
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR4 Cap+ RestCh=1
+DMR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR4 Cap+ RestCh=1
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR2 Cap+ RestCh=1
CACH Sig ERR1
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR12 ECC FAIL
Sync: no sync
 

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THIS IS WHAT'S COMING UP ON 168.180 is the LCN IN THERE ?????

Yes it is..

+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR5 Cap+ RestCh=1
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2

So 168.1800 which you are getting the data blips on is LCN 1. (Rest Channel 1 & 2 is the two time slots on the frequency).. LCN 2 would be 3/4 etc etc.

Matt
 

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Info on 169.440

Yes it is..

+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR5 Cap+ RestCh=1
+DMR slot2 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2

So 168.1800 which you are getting the data blips on is LCN 1. (Rest Channel 1 & 2 is the two time slots on the frequency).. LCN 2 would be 3/4 etc etc.

Matt
this the info on 169.440 from DSD+


+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
CACH Sig ERR2
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR8 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot2 BS DATA ERR2 DCC=10 CSBK ERR5 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR2 DCC=10 CSBK ERR4 Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR9 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR3 Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR7 ECC FAIL
+DMR CACH ERR slot2 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR1 Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR8 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR6 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR9 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR9 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR1 Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR9 ECC FAIL
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA ERR2 DCC=10 CSBK ERR10 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR2 DCC=10 CSBK ERR1 Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR8 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR10 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR11 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
CACH Sig ERR3
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR12 ECC FAIL
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR9 ECC FAIL
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
CACH Sig ERR3
+DMR CACH ERR slot1 BS DATA DCC=10 CSBK ERR8 ECC FAIL
Sync:+DMR
+DMR slot1 BS DATA ERR1 DCC=10 CSBK ERR3 Cap+ RestCh=2
Sync: no sync
Sync:+DMR
CACH Sig ERR3
 
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