2018 Toronto Airshow
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RR Posts from back in June when they were up at Niagara Falls.
http://forums.radioreference.com/ne...ara-arb-air-show-frequencies.html#post2945176
http://forums.radioreference.com/ne...ara-arb-air-show-frequencies.html#post2945176
mbstone99
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I believe I am hearing some action on the 272.1 and 246.5 for the Snowbirds. Probably getting ready for the show this weekend.
Matt
Was keeping an ear out during practice today.
- Show Hold (118.000) and Boss (119.200) on their usual frequencies.
- CF-18 talking to his narrator and doing simulcast on 333.300.
- Snowbirds active on 116.000 (a little), 117.000 (rarely) and 272.100 (mostly). Didn't hear 246.500 in use today.
Feel free to post additional notes!
Some questions:
When did the Snowbirds start using multiple frequencies in a show? It's been a while since I monitored one of their performances and they used to all share one channel for the whole show. Clearly no longer the case; seems like they are running 272.100 like a "show box" frequency, Blue Angels style, with 116.000 for solos when outside the box? Didn't really catch on to what 117.000 was for - main formation outside the show box? Just curious when they adopted this comms strategy.
Finally, did anyone catch the Thunderbirds? I had 20 or so of their frequencies loaded up and didn't get any hits at all. Snowbirds were coming in 5/5 from my location, which makes me think I was watching the wrong frequencies. Or else TBs run a lot less Tx power than the SBs.
- Show Hold (118.000) and Boss (119.200) on their usual frequencies.
- CF-18 talking to his narrator and doing simulcast on 333.300.
- Snowbirds active on 116.000 (a little), 117.000 (rarely) and 272.100 (mostly). Didn't hear 246.500 in use today.
Feel free to post additional notes!
Some questions:
When did the Snowbirds start using multiple frequencies in a show? It's been a while since I monitored one of their performances and they used to all share one channel for the whole show. Clearly no longer the case; seems like they are running 272.100 like a "show box" frequency, Blue Angels style, with 116.000 for solos when outside the box? Didn't really catch on to what 117.000 was for - main formation outside the show box? Just curious when they adopted this comms strategy.
Finally, did anyone catch the Thunderbirds? I had 20 or so of their frequencies loaded up and didn't get any hits at all. Snowbirds were coming in 5/5 from my location, which makes me think I was watching the wrong frequencies. Or else TBs run a lot less Tx power than the SBs.
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For anybody using a physical scanner versus a software controlled SDR pay particular attention to those 140-149 MHz freqs listed for U.S. demo teams. Many a scanner is going to automatically select FM demodulation and maybe even incorrect frequency steps (and may not be selectable otherwise) whereas those teams can and do use AM in that band. Having said that, frequency coordination happens via I.C. in advance so they may not even use them on this side of the border.
Working the CIAS years ago at Boss Control when I was with Transport Canada - Aviation, the Thunderbirds had one impressive rolling portable equipment cabinet sitting beside our portable control tower.
Working the CIAS years ago at Boss Control when I was with Transport Canada - Aviation, the Thunderbirds had one impressive rolling portable equipment cabinet sitting beside our portable control tower.
kevin2525
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Thanks for the info.
Mike445
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Yup that’s exactly what I said. I’ve see. The Tbirds several times in the past few years and these are brand new frequencies. They should be passed along to the database.
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One more addition: 122.450
I found it while looking for the F-35/P-51 heritage flight (they were on it), but it was also used for PA simulcast. Then the following act used it for that as well. It’s possible I missed it in earlier acts. Was called “discrete” on the air. I never heard anything on the old PA frequency (123.600) so perhaps this simply replaces that.
Last note: I heard a Snowbirds comm check on 246.500 but they didn’t use it. Those used today were as noted during the practise yesterday.
I found it while looking for the F-35/P-51 heritage flight (they were on it), but it was also used for PA simulcast. Then the following act used it for that as well. It’s possible I missed it in earlier acts. Was called “discrete” on the air. I never heard anything on the old PA frequency (123.600) so perhaps this simply replaces that.
Last note: I heard a Snowbirds comm check on 246.500 but they didn’t use it. Those used today were as noted during the practise yesterday.
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FWIW, 136.525 has been for a number of years now, and continues to be, licensed to the GTAA @ CYYZ. It may have been assigned for the CIAS as it's kind of "protected" in that there shouldn't be any other services on it in Ontario per Industry Canada.
In the many times I've checked I have not heard it in use for anything at Pearson.
In the many times I've checked I have not heard it in use for anything at Pearson.
Looks like 122.45 was not being used today by the F-35 and P-51. Not sure where thet went?
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