BCD436HP/BCD536HP: Open Sky?

Ensnared · Nov 4, 2018

At present, I have upgraded to DMR, PV, & NXDN. Now, here is the big question. Will Uniden or any other scanner manufacturer ever offer Open Sky as a firmware upgrade option? If not, why. I searched & could not find where this has been addressed.

noaim · Nov 4, 2018

Open sky I believe is encrypted and won’t come to scanners our main city is open sky

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Nasby · Nov 4, 2018

Open sky, like Provoice, is a dying system.

andrer9999 · Nov 4, 2018

It’s encrypted, and impossible to decrypt in the fly.

riccom · Nov 4, 2018

I think Milwaukee will soon go to p25, with many of the issues it has had, and still are having, it will say"enough" and go to the new system, they need to, harris tyco disneyland is pulling the plug on it!

scan-pa · Nov 4, 2018

Nasby said:
Open sky, like Provoice, is a dying system.

ProVoice is just a Digital FM voice mode, not a system. It is used on Conventional or EDACS trunking systems.

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riccom · Nov 4, 2018

scan-pa said:
ProVoice is just a Digital FM voice mode, not a system. It is used on Conventional or EDACS trunking systems.

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Yep and edacs imho was a beast, and when used right was flawless, and old Motorola analog trunking.

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Ensnared · Nov 4, 2018

Duration of Death Cycle

Nasby said:
Open sky, like Provoice, is a dying system.

I already know about the problems associated with Open Sky; however, there are several agencies using it here in Texas: DFW Airport Public Safety; Lower Colorado River Authority; & Hays County. I counted 11 Open Sky systems in Texas. There were around 23 EDACS systems in Texas.

At present, I listen to ProVoice on a daily basis. EDACS has been suffering a long death. Truthfully, I do not know how long a so-called obsolete or near-death radio system works without necessary upgrades and support services.

So, if Uniden forked out the money for a dying system, EDACS, what is preventing them from offering another one that is clearly being used to this very hour? If they offered Open Sky, they would have no other competitor. Whistler does not do ProVoice as you likely know.

riccom · Nov 4, 2018

Cause the number of systems used for opensky only accounts for .01% of the total systems.
And is not made for law enforcement, only data and some voice traffic, not the high demand that is needed

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Ensnared · Nov 4, 2018

Percentage

riccom said:
Cause the number of systems used for opensky only accounts for .01% of the total systems.
And is not made for law enforcement, only data and some voice traffic, not the high demand that is needed

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I don't know where the .01% value originated. If you have access to the percentages of EDACS within the U.S., I would invite you to share this with us.

I guess that many folks were duped into buying this system. Perhaps, this is why Open Sky caused so many problems in various municipalities.

iMONITOR · Nov 4, 2018

andrer9999 said:
It’s encrypted, and impossible to decrypt in the fly.

Not necessarily, although it can be, but not by default.

Open Sky was created by MA-COM, INC., which is a division of Harris.

andrer9999 · Nov 4, 2018

iMONITOR said:
Not necessarily, although it can be, but not by default.

Open Sky was created by MA-COM, INC., which is a division of Harris.

Yes, you’re obviously right. I wasn’t paying attention and thought I was in the Wisconsin sub forum, where all our police and fire in Milwaukee uses it.

noaim · Nov 4, 2018

riccom said:
I think Milwaukee will soon go to p25, with many of the issues it has had, and still are having, it will say"enough" and go to the new system, they need to, harris tyco disneyland is pulling the plug on it!

That would be awesome since they are the main city here getting no traffic sucks

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riccom · Nov 4, 2018

True but they will be encrypted, they want to be hush and like to keep there moves quiet, if they kept dispatch open it would be ok, the rest they can keep on the e

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noaim · Nov 4, 2018

andrer9999 said:
Yes, you’re obviously right. I wasn’t paying attention and thought I was in the Wisconsin sub forum, where all our police and fire in Milwaukee uses it.

I’m in Wisconsin as well (south east) I get tons of traffic but hardly anything from Milwaukee

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Marky102770 · Nov 4, 2018

Open sky

Opensky isn't an encrypted system.

andrer9999 said:
It’s encrypted, and impossible to decrypt in the fly.

riccom · Nov 4, 2018

Marky102770 said:
Opensky isn't an encrypted system.

Is open sky a tdma system?

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scnrfrq · Nov 5, 2018

PA is dumping their OpenSky state system, and going to a P25. It is already in use in some areas for some agencies. Starting in NW PA and moving east for the next couple years. State Police is still encrypted though.

ka3jjz · Nov 5, 2018

riccom said:
Is open sky a tdma system?

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Firebuff880 · Nov 5, 2018

iMONITOR said:
Not necessarily, although it can be, but not by default.

Open Sky was created by MA-COM, INC., which is a division of Harris.

No it was not !! Open Sky was created in Lowell MA as a potential data only IP over radio solution for FedEx as the early cell systems were not cutting it. I don't recall the company name, but MA-COM purchased then in the hope that Open Sky would be the digital alternative to EDACS verses getting on the P25 train.

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