RadioReference on Facebook   RadioReference on Twitter   RadioReference Blog
 

Go Back   The RadioReference.com Forums > Topic Specific Forums > Antennas and Associated Hardware > Splitters, Filters and Multicouplers


Splitters, Filters and Multicouplers For discussion of all inline devices used to split, combine or amplify a receive signal. This forum is not for any bi-directional (transmit) device. Use the Amateur or Commercial Radio forums for those.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 03-06-2013, 11:21 AM
737mech's Avatar
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Clark County, NV.
Posts: 658
Question MCA208M ??

I have a few questions for you guys using Stridsberg multicouplers. First off did you try tv splitters first and realize a limitation or problem? How did the scanners behave before the stridsberg? The reason I ask I have four scanners all feed from one catv splitter. Most of the time I have them all on Milair stuff. I have noticed that one scanner will open on a strong freq, then another will open on the same, and then the others eventually find that signal. Sometimes one or two scanners won't get it at all. So they don't all open squelch at the same time (expected). What I'm getting at here is the Stridsberg, when you are using it will the scanners just go on like they each had their own antenna? Is that port isolation factor that good? What other effects happen when you use a catv spliter? Maybe I have that problem but can't notice it? Sometimes one scanner will get stuck on noise and then the others get all noisy too. I'm probably gonna go ahead and get the MCA208M for further expansion do I really need to cap the unused ports? Last question, jumper coax cables from Stridsberg anyone using them? Are they worth the money or should I just make my own?
__________________
In Omnia Paratus!!

BCT-15 / BCT-15X / PSR500 / PRO2051/ BC125AT/PRO-95/SDR#
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 03-06-2013, 2:25 PM
Member
   
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Puget Sound
Posts: 511
Default

First off, you have to realize that on the standard CATV splitter there is a loss factor between input and out put.

On a 2 port splitter, you are divideing in half, the input signal, now on a three output you have half the input signal going to one port and then for each of the next two ports, each port is double the loss.

Loss on outputs, 2 port splitters are 3db each port, three way is 3db to one port and 7db to the other two, 4 way is 7db to each port and the big one, 8 way splitter is a big 11db to each port. (10 in, -1 out)

EXAMPLE: input signal is 10, output on a two way is 5 to each port. On a three way the out put is 5 to one port and then 3 to the other two.

On a 4 way, each out put has the same loss facter which is big. (called DB loss) It is 7db

Soo..10 going into the slpitter and on each of the 4 outputs you will see a 3.

As for the Stridsberg, at over three hundred dollors, I can come up with a whole lot better solution.


I run muliple recievers and I use the following:

From the antenna, 10" away I use a 20db catv amp then 40ft cable into the shack to a home made panel with a chassis mount tv type "F" fitting on the input, the panel is 3" wide by 16" long.

I have 12 BNC chassis mount fittings that are all wired in parall from the center pins to the "F" fitting.

The panel itself is the sheild side.

My input signal to output signal (reciever) is ther same.

Been using this setup for over 8 years and never missed a beat.

Last edited by cabletech; 03-06-2013 at 2:28 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 03-06-2013, 4:01 PM
Member
   
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Cranbourne East,Victoria,Australia
Posts: 687
Default MCA208M ??

Hi i use 2 of the Stridsberg-MCA204M active 4 port and run 8 receivers on each with no signal loss..

Regards Lino..
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 03-07-2013, 11:05 AM
737mech's Avatar
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Clark County, NV.
Posts: 658
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cabletech View Post
First off, you have to realize that on the standard CATV splitter there is a loss factor between input and out put.

On a 2 port splitter, you are divideing in half, the input signal, now on a three output you have half the input signal going to one port and then for each of the next two ports, each port is double the loss.

Loss on outputs, 2 port splitters are 3db each port, three way is 3db to one port and 7db to the other two, 4 way is 7db to each port and the big one, 8 way splitter is a big 11db to each port. (10 in, -1 out)

EXAMPLE: input signal is 10, output on a two way is 5 to each port. On a three way the out put is 5 to one port and then 3 to the other two.

On a 4 way, each out put has the same loss facter which is big. (called DB loss) It is 7db

Soo..10 going into the slpitter and on each of the 4 outputs you will see a 3.

As for the Stridsberg, at over three hundred dollors, I can come up with a whole lot better solution.


I run muliple recievers and I use the following:

From the antenna, 10" away I use a 20db catv amp then 40ft cable into the shack to a home made panel with a chassis mount tv type "F" fitting on the input, the panel is 3" wide by 16" long.

I have 12 BNC chassis mount fittings that are all wired in parall from the center pins to the "F" fitting.

The panel itself is the sheild side.

My input signal to output signal (reciever) is ther same.

Been using this setup for over 8 years and never missed a beat.
Thanks for all that info, I'm glad your setup is working for you. Could you post a picture? How exactly did you measure input and output do you have test equipment? My other concern is port isolation. There's a long list of comments here about splitters and using one antenna for many scanners. I have read it all. With my setup doing the math I figure my scanners only get 1/4 or less of the signal coming in from the antenna. That Stridsberg seems to be the answer based on what others are saying here. I'm trying to get specific info from people that use them. Thank you again for trying to save me money and time I appreciate that.
__________________
In Omnia Paratus!!

BCT-15 / BCT-15X / PSR500 / PRO2051/ BC125AT/PRO-95/SDR#
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 03-12-2013, 11:52 PM
WayneH's Avatar
Forums Manager
  RadioReference Database Admininstrator
Database Admin
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: San Joaquin County, CA
Posts: 7,890
Default

http://forums.radioreference.com/pas...ml#post1865582

The same is going to hold true for the 8-port Stridsberg.

Short version:
TV drop-amps typically have too much gain to the point it will impact the decode quality of P25 or control channel decoding. They also do not cover the same spectrum as the Stridsberg. If you just want one for analog and you're receiving within 120-900(ish) then have at it with a drop-amp.
__________________
-Wayne
PM's are disabled. Please use email through my profile or: wayne_h at radioreference dot com
Got an admin question? -> Forum Rules & Guidelines
Please do not reply to my moderator activity. I do not follow those threads.
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
All information here is Copyright 2012 by RadioReference.com LLC and Lindsay C. Blanton III.Ad Management by RedTyger
Copyright 2011 by RadioReference.com LLC Privacy Policy  |  Terms and Conditions