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Old 11-09-2003, 04:34 PM
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I am planning on stacking a pair of 6 element yagi's. My question is on the hook up. The ready made harnesses seem a bit costly. Will a T connector and some equal specified lengths of coax work or is there some sort of electronic coupler in a store bought harness? Any help would be apreciated.

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Old 11-27-2003, 07:46 PM
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Funny you should post the question. A couple of Sinclair reps were in our shop a couple of weeks ago, and this configuration was featured in their presentation. Believe it or not, the antennas are coupled together with equal lengths of 75-ohm cable, into a regular 50-ohm T connector.
What I can't specifically recall is the following:

1) Whether the length of 75-ohm cable is critical or not...ie - must it be 1/4 wavelength. I believe it is, it couldn't hurt anyway.

2) What type/size of 75-ohm cable is used. I believe it's RG-11.

Don't ask my why the 75-ohm cable, they gave an explanation that was a little greek to me. I'll take a browse through my notes & see if I can figure anything else out. You may also get some answers in the System Infrastructure forum on BatLabs.

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Old 11-28-2003, 07:54 AM
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You just can't take two 50 ohm antennas and connect them together. First of all, you need to space them apart to allow them to work together. This is nomally a little over a 1/4 wave.

Next, you just can't take and tie two 50 ohm coax cables together at a tee. This would not be a 50 ohm connection point. The combined termination point at the tee would be someplace much lower than the desired 50 ohms. The solution to both these problems is to make a section of cable be a transition for the impeadence back to 50 ohms.

Normally the transition is done with a section of 75 ohm coax cable. Some of the antenna manufacturers even have some coax cable that is around 35 ohms.

There are other cable types that are used to make this transition. DB has some interesting cable they use on their antennas. If you look at the harnes on one of their antennas, you will see several cable type numbers used. All of them start with "VB" for vapor block. This prevents water migration in the cable. Anyway, you will see numbers like VB83, VB8, VB35 and the likes.

The lengths will vary, but you should find them to be in some sort of 1/4 wave length or multiples of it. The lowband dipole arrays need more cable length between the dipole elements. Yup, they do make a 4 dipole array. Makes a fine antenna for 6 meters. Only problem is it is rather expensive. Only problem it takes a great deal of verticle realestate on a tower. Some place around 60 feet if my memory is still with me.

Hope this comes close to answering your question.

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Old 11-28-2003, 08:04 AM
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Default Yagi connections

Thanks for the input. I did find a formula for the spacing on the antennas but no one seems to have instructions on the hook up. I've heard 3 or 4 different ideas on the subject and they are all different. Spacing should be 1 full wavelength X 1.457 give or take. This info from a google search on yagi antennas. I read for hours and never found anything on the hookup. I'll keep looking and thanks for all the help

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Pick up an ARRL book on antenna design.
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Concur. The ARRL antenna handbook will answer your questions.
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