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08-27-2005, 06:26 PM
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Equipment not allowed on Ebay:
Scanners: Generally, scanning receivers and radios may be listed on eBay. However, members may not list any scanning receiver or radio that receives cellular ransmissions or has "full 800mz" coverage.
Low power radio transmitting devices and related equipment: Devices that transmit radio signals on the AM or FM bands are regulated by the FCC. This includes restrictions on the range of such devices. On FM frequencies, these low power devices are limited to an effective service range of approximately 35 to 100 feet (11-to-30 meters). On the AM broadcast band, these devices are limited to an effective service range of approximately 200-to-250 feet (61 to 76 meters). eBay does not permit the listing of devices that claim or suggest a more extensive range, as such items may violate these regulations.
Extended coverage high frequency transceivers: Equipment that is intended to operate in various radio services in the high frequency radio spectrum, including "10-Meter" Amateur Radio Service (ARS) equipment, is lawful and may be sold. However, members may not list high frequency transceivers that are designed to operate on frequencies outside of the ARS bands if it has not been issued a grant of equipment authorization for the radio service(s) in which the transmitter is capable of operating. Operation of this equipment causes interference to the authorized users of frequency bands allocated to other radio services such as the Private Land Mobile Radio Services, Maritime Services, Auxiliary Broadcast Services, International Broadcasting Services, the Citizens Band Radio Service, and the U.S. Government.
CB amplifiers: The FCC does not permit the use of power amplifiers with Citizens Band radios. Therefore, eBay prohibits any listings of the following: - CB amplifiers
- Amplifiers specified for use on the 11 Meter band
- Amplifiers designed for use in frequencies 24 MHz to 35MHz
- Amplifiers posted within the CB category
- CB Radios that are amplified to exceed 4 Watts using the AM Settings or 12 Watts using the SSB settings
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08-27-2005, 06:29 PM
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Alright kids, let's count how many violations the users have committed!
Eh, I'm too lazy.
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08-27-2005, 06:34 PM
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08-27-2005, 08:24 PM
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wheres riley when we need him!
wesct
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08-27-2005, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kf4lne
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Give or take a few hundred million. 
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08-27-2005, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by RyltnVFD
Alright kids, let's count how many violations the users have committed!
Eh, I'm too lazy.
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Yeah no kidding there are crapload of those kinds.
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08-27-2005, 11:38 PM
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just counted. As per ebay rules. 0. in reality. Too big of a number to count on my fingers and toes!
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08-27-2005, 11:47 PM
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Question about the full 800 scanners-
What if it's a UK model, or pre-ban? I don't see why that would be illegal.
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08-28-2005, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RyltnVFD
Question about the full 800 scanners-
What if it's a UK model, or pre-ban? I don't see why that would be illegal.
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They're not implying they're illegal...just not allowed, per eBay's policies.
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08-28-2005, 01:20 AM
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a whole lot of em!
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08-28-2005, 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by MacombMonitor
They're not implying they're illegal...just not allowed, per eBay's policies.
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Sorry, I should've clarified that. I mean, would it still be against Ebay's policies? I don't see why it should be.
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08-28-2005, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RyltnVFD
Sorry, I should've clarified that. I mean, would it still be against Ebay's policies? I don't see why it should be.
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Because they would prefer to avoid the shit storm as opposed to muddling through legal gray areas, as is their right.
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08-28-2005, 02:55 PM
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ALL my equipment came from eBay, the greatest flea market in the world.....
I'm good from 150khz to 1300 mhz and still growing. Hillbilly technology at its best!! What's really cool is that my little 800 mhz handheld radio allows me to talk to Hong Kong. They put up this thing called a repeater down the road by the truck stop, but it sure looks like a cell tower. I've seen pictures before, they can't fool me!!
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08-28-2005, 10:26 PM
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What year did the FCC mandate that CB's be 4 watts intead of 5 watts? When I was a teenager I had a CB in my bedroom, it was a 23 channel 5 watt unit.
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08-29-2005, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JMedley_1
What year did the FCC mandate that CB's be 4 watts intead of 5 watts? When I was a teenager I had a CB in my bedroom, it was a 23 channel 5 watt unit.
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When CB was authorized (late 50s? early 60s? I can't remember that far back with any accuracy), power was measured by input to the final. That was changed (I don't remember when) to measure output to the antenna connector. Since a Class C amplifier can run around 80% efficiency, it's the same radio, measured differently.
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08-31-2005, 12:06 AM
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CB DXing....
Contrary to some paranoia from (I guess) a hardcore 2 meter guy(s) that took their tests, passed, spent some bucks on equipment, and now the equipment sits in a glass case to be broken into in the case of an emergency....DXing with a CB is NOT going to rain on their parade.
CB Dxing has been around ever since they built the first radio, and then discovered the advantage of sending very little RF out many hundred miles away because of the ionosphere bounce.
Somebody please tell those, quick to close a thread to first understand that 4 watts will skip. And...owning vintage equipment is not illegal to possess in the United States, if they forgot where we live. My antenna is about 40 feet off the ground and less than 20 above the roof....BUT IT's 100 plus FEET ABOVE THE SURROUNDING FIELDS....OOOPPS, TOOO BAD!
And for those confused as to what "80W" means at the end of my signature block, it happens to mean that the last two digits of my 911 address is 80 and I am in (W) west Tennessee. In any event, I have a non-expiring FCC Radio Permit (yellow) in my wallet with only my name and NO Call SIGN. It's a vintage license with no expiration date and I use it to talk many miles on HF in the 6mhz, 8mhz, 13 mhz and 17 mhz 22 mhz bands during the line of work while flying a transport jetliner. It also allows me to talk on VHF frequencies between 118.0 and 136.0 mhz to airplanes and controllers.
Now....am I worried about CB DXing on my 1977 CB radio? I don't know what it puts out for wattage and I don't care!! And I'm sure the Feds could give two hoots, so don't freak and close this thread like the last ones.
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08-31-2005, 12:26 AM
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I have a paging system that I bought from RadioShack that broadcasts a data signal over CB channel 23 at 6.5 watts. Is it legal?
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08-31-2005, 12:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Joseph11
I have a paging system that I bought from RadioShack that broadcasts a data signal over CB channel 23 at 6.5 watts. Is it legal?
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Not if you're using it in the US.
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08-31-2005, 01:36 AM
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Why would RadioShack sell an illegal product?
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08-31-2005, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Joseph11
Why would RadioShack sell an illegal product?
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For the same reason that any business sells any product - to make money.
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