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Old 10-20-2005, 1:54 AM
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Default How do you get cell or cordless phone conversations on a scanner?

Can anyone tell me where to find info on how to dial in the codes to pick up cell or cordless phone conversations on a scanner? Im new to this. I have a Radio Shack 800 MHZ handheld scanner. How do i find codes for the Muskogee, Oklahoma area?
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Old 10-20-2005, 2:12 AM
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IT IS ILLEAGLE to monitor cellphones & cordless phones. There's a lot of fun & legal things to hear, but please keep within the laws.

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Old 10-20-2005, 3:13 AM
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I will add to that. Even if you did have a scanner capable of receiving cellphone frequencies you wouldn't make anything out of it because they are encrypted.
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Old 10-20-2005, 4:22 AM
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How do i find codes for the Muskogee, Oklahoma area?
Check out the database. The link is at the top of the page.

As far as cell and cordless...those frequencies are blocked from scanners sold to civilians in the US. Those scanners are sold to law enforcement agencies with a valid purchase order and Canadian (and other foreign) addresses. Older, unscrambled cordless phones can be monitored in the VHF-lo band. As the other poster have noted, it is illegal to monitor any phone conversation.

Don't let that discourage you. One of the best things about this hobby is discovering new frequencies (and talkgroups, after your rookie status wears off ). Take a day to program a search range and log all the different things to hear out there.
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you can hear some of the older cordless phones..


Even one of our supposedly 800mhz phones, I can pick it up if I'm realllllly close but only one end of the conversation.

Somewhere in between 400 and 470 mhz. Not sure off hand, I found it by chance.
I don't know how the cordless stuff works though, maybe base to HH is ~800mhz and HH to base is ~400mhz.
Dunno it's a cheap GE Cordless Phone.


Forget about trying to monitor Cell Phones though.
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Old 10-20-2005, 7:37 AM
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Don't you mean 900 MHz. analog, because I heard someone's telephone conversation (one end too) around 902 MHz. I never heard of 800 MHz cordless phones before.

Common Cordless Phone types and frequencies include

46-49 MHz - analog

900 MHz - analog
900 MHz - digital SS
900 MHz - digital FHSS

2400 MHz - analog
2400 MHz - digital FHSS

5800 MHz - analog
5800 MHz - digital FHSS

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SS-Spread Spectrum, FHSS-Frequency Hopping Spread Spectrum
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oops..
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I will add to that. Even if you did have a scanner capable of receiving cell phone frequencies you wouldn't make anything out of it because they are encrypted.
Did you mean to say "digital"? I don't know of any cell phones being encrypted. Also, there is still an unbelievable number of analog cell phones that are still in use.
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Did you mean to say "digital"? I don't know of any cell phones being encrypted.
GSM allows for encryption. How it is implemented in each network I am not sure. Also not sure on the other standards (CDMA etc.).

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"Did you mean to say "digital"? I don't know of any cell phones being encrypted."

How sure are you about that? I'm almost certain that CDMA2000 uses:

(CAVE)-Cellular Authentication and Voice Encryption
(CMEA) - for signaling Cellular Message Encryption Algorithm
(ORYX )-for data on the CDMA channel.

Granted you said "CELLPHONE" vice the stream.







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"Did you mean to say "digital"? I don't know of any cell phones being encrypted."

How sure are you about that? I'm almost certain that CDMA2000 uses:

(CAVE)-Cellular Authentication and Voice Encryption
(CMEA) - for signaling Cellular Message Encryption Algorithm
(ORYX )-for data on the CDMA channel.

Granted you said "CELLPHONE" vice the stream.
OK, lets be clearer.

You wont hear anything intelligible because they are digital (and in a format not received by your scanner), and if you DID have the equipment to hear it, then you may still not be able to because it might be encrypted (Most likely on CDMA, less likely on other formats).
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i listen to my neigbors phone calls all the time . its very interesting to hear them squat about everyone in the building. let me ask you folks . if they pass a law if you have a bc-396t is illegal to own. how many of you would/wont give up your radio..
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LOL I see this as turning into one of those big long threads
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Old 10-20-2005, 11:39 AM
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Lets make it simple for ya. ITS ILLEGAL TO LISTEN TO CELL PHONE CONVERSTAIONS AND CORDLESS PHONE CONVERSATIONS!!!!!
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okay if the bc-396t were against the law to have. what were yo do.
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okay if the bc-396t were against the law to have. what were yo do.

Once again we have a problem with people not knowing how to READ!!

He said; "ITS ILLEGAL TO LISTEN TO CELL PHONE CONVERSTAIONS AND CORDLESS PHONE CONVERSATIONS".

He did not say it was illegal to own a receiver capable of it!.
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Old 10-20-2005, 11:47 AM
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i listen to my neigbors phone calls all the time . its very interesting to hear them squat about everyone in the building. let me ask you folks . if they pass a law if you have a bc-396t is illegal to own. how many of you would/wont give up your radio..
Or to put it another way. It is NOT illegal to own a scanner that can pick up phone calls just as it is not illegal to own a gun, except in New York, it's in how you use it.
If you monitor a phone call it is illegal. Period. No ifs. No buts. No anything.
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Old 10-20-2005, 11:48 AM
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i listen to my neigbors phone calls all the time . its very interesting to hear them squat about everyone in the building.
Please don't get on here and advertise that you're doing this. Scanner owners are already looked down on for what they can hear, and what they do, so don't feed into the mis-aligned public attitude towards scanner users.

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let me ask you folks . if they pass a law if you have a bc-396t is illegal to own. how many of you would/wont give up your radio..
Poor comparison. There is plenty more out there to listen to (public safety, marine, air, business band, etc), so making it illegal to monitor phones is not the same as banning a scanner altogether.

Mods, how about a lock on this before it gets any more out of hand?
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Everyone can stop giving Wendall crap now because WE HAVE ALL DONE IT AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER....
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i agree it is illegal to listen to phone calls. but in some cities its illegal to smoke in public places do people follow the law. i do not think so.
 

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